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Old 06-27-2006, 07:13 AM   #1
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Limbaugh got caught in an airport with a bottle of Viagra, but without a prescription. You'd think after his little Oxycontin adventure, he would be much more careful about the meds.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:04 AM   #2
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It sounds like we haven't got the rest of the story again.
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Because, obviously, Rush can't be the one who is wrong here? It's inconceivable that he believes laws regarding prescription drugs don't apply to him?

I'd be curious to see in how many intances you adopted a "we don't know the whole story" attitude when it was a liberal or Democrat who was accused. Is that what you said when Congressman Jefferson was caught taking bribes? Or when Patrick Kennedy crashed his car while hopped up on pills? I bet you didn't. (I would have listed more scandals involving liberal or Democratic politicians or commentators, but all the rest seem to involve Republicans like Delay, Frist, etc).


FYI, according to CNN, this may ruin his plea deal on the Oxy thing. You remember where he was abusing Oxy and using phony scripts and that kind of thing?
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Who gives a sh!t? Imean really?
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Every one knows all these drug head punks arejacked up on Viagra causing huge crime waves. Rush is the gang leader I hear. The gang members are easily apprehended by police since they have trouble running away with the bulge in their pants.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:15 PM   #6
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So how did they catch him , did he trip over it ?
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:25 PM   #7
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oh hell, i hope not kev. given all his issues, the term "guppy" comes to mind. only that kind of innate inadequacy can explain thevitriol he spews.

seriously though, this guy's arrest is relevent. some of these talking heads make themselves self-appointed keepers of the public morales. if they knowingly break the law, that merely underscores their hyprocracy.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:33 PM   #8
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Because, obviously, Rush can't be the one who is wrong here?Â* It's inconceivable that he believes laws regarding prescription drugs don't apply to him?Â*
Says who? The flip side is hanging him before trial or judgement.

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I'd be curious to see in how many intances you adopted a "we don't know the whole story" attitude when it was a liberal or Democrat who was accused.Â* Is that what you said when Congressman Jefferson was caught taking bribes?Â* Or when Patrick Kennedy crashed his car while hopped up on pills?Â* I bet you didn't.Â* (I would have listed more scandals involving liberal or Democratic politicians or commentators, but all the rest seem to involve Republicans like Delay, Frist, etc).
You are right. Politics makes people go for the throat. It's an ugly part of it. If someone under investigation is guilty, then the investigation should bear out that fact. You can bet your frozen cash on it.

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FYI, according to CNN, this may ruin his plea deal on the Oxy thing.Â* You remember where he was abusing Oxy and using phony scripts and that kind of thing?
He deserves what he gets. But I wonder whether the law regarding "script shopping" is being applied with equal vigor to everyone else.
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I heard he is going to chage his name to Russ Limp-baugh.
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Because, obviously, Rush can't be the one who is wrong here? It's inconceivable that he believes laws regarding prescription drugs don't apply to him?
Hmmmmmm..... Now I said It sounds like we haven't got the rest of the story again. And then you somehow interpreted my comment to mean that Rush can't be wrong and that I must think Rush can't have an opinion that the law doesn't apply to him. Let me think about this for a minute. No, I don't see how anybody can make your conclusions unless you're already entertaining some preconceived determination (i.e. bias).

The original post gave very scant details (not faulting Lanse, just stating the reality) and the first news item I could pull up on the incident (I think it was Yahoo but aren't positive on this) didn't have much more in the way of details. The article did say Rush had the prescription in his doctor's name but really didn't go into much detail or even the Florida laws which would have jurisdiction in this case. As I said above, I don't think we've got the rest of the story yet, regardless of whether Rush has committed a crime or not.

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I'd be curious to see in how many intances you adopted a "we don't know the whole story" attitude when it was a liberal or Democrat who was accused. Is that what you said when Congressman Jefferson was caught taking bribes? Or when Patrick Kennedy crashed his car while hopped up on pills? I bet you didn't. (I would have listed more scandals involving liberal or Democratic politicians or commentators, but all the rest seem to involve Republicans like Delay, Frist, etc).
I'm certain you haven't bothered to research this and have substituted your own biased and partisan opinion. But let's check on the 2 examples you gave--Jefferson and Kennedy.

I started the post about Jefferson's incident (see below quote) but didn't really comment on Jefferson specifically as much as on the issue of whether Congress (all 535 members, not just Jefferson) should not be subject to the same search warrant laws as the rest of us. I did mention my opinion that there is a certain elitist thought process occurring here but that comment was directed at the entire Congress and not just Jefferson.

I didn't mention any attitude about whether we don't know or we do know about the facts but then, you seemed to have missed posting on this topic.

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Although I can understand why congress is upset about this search warrant raid, I also think there is a certain elitist thought process occurring here. The key words here are warrant-bearing agents. A warrant is signed and approved by a judge. Any other American citizen is subject to the same process after review and approval by a judge. While I understand the concept of separation of powers of the 3 branches of government, I don't think any branch should be above the law that the rest of us must submit to simply because of their position. What does everybody else think?


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May 24, 2006 F.B.I. Raid Divides G.O.P. Lawmakers and White House By CARL HULSE WASHINGTON, May 23 "” After years of quietly acceding to the Bush administration's assertions of executive power, the Republican-led Congress hit a limit this weekend.
Resentment boiled among senior Republicans for a second day on Tuesday after a team of warrant-bearing agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation turned up at a closed House office building on Saturday evening, demanded entry to the office of a lawmaker and spent the night going through his files.
The episode prompted cries of constitutional foul from Republicans "” even though the lawmaker in question, Representative William J. Jefferson of Louisiana, is a Democrat whose involvement in a bribery case has made him an obvious partisan political target......
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/washington/24cong.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

and then we have my comments about Congressman Kennedy (Patrick to be specific). Let's examine them, shall we?

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Capitol physician confirmed he was taking Ambien and fennigrin (sp?). Both make you very sleepy, I've taken fennigrin for nausea and it was powerful, I can't imagine taking it with a sleep aide - it is amazing he could get out of bed.

No breath test? That's the job of the cops, if they didn't do it, that's their problem.
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He was apparently whisked away by senior officers before it happened.

I'm sure they would have done that for any number of Congressmen. Doesn't make it right. But considering the Kennedy track record, it's more likely to happen to them than any other rep.
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A breath test wouldn't show prescription meds in the bloodstream. The normal test fro a drug DUI is a blood test (draw blood and have a lab analyze it). Ambien prescriptions have a warning label that tells people not to operate heavy machinery, etc. (such as automobiles) while taking the medication. Ambien is also normally taken at night to minimize the chances that a person will injure themselves due to it's effect upon the body.

Not testing a person who was obviously impaired AND in a car accident is NOT the standard protocol for any police or sheriff's department that I know of. What's sad is Kennedy will likely continue this type of behavior and may get somebody seriously injured or killed.
This comment was about police procedures and the indicated prescription med. It didn't address the issue of whether we knew the rest of the story or not.

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The problem is there is NO SOLID PROOF that he did anything wrong[/blockquote]

LOL - I love when people post dumb stuff on the forums. I mean, C'MON ! Of course he wasn't in his right mind. How gullible to think he was ?

And now reports are he's going into drug rehab, he's admitting a problem, don't know what time he got up, where he drove etc etc.

To think otherwise is really, really naive.
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I believe Wolf Killer meant evidence instead of the word proof. Since the Capitol Police Supervisor decided to override how the line cops handled the situation, no sobriety tests were conducted and no attempts at gathering evidence was made so there isn't any "proof" other than Kennedy's admission and the obvious fact that he got in a car accident. It is standard practice for people not to take the witness stand in their own behalf (i.e. exercise their 5th amendment rights) so there really isn't much proof or evidence even though we all can be reasonably sure that Kennedy was obviously under the influence of his medication.
And this comment was about police procedures and really didn't address whether we knew the rest of the story or not either. Now I realize you only mentioned 2 out of the probably hundreds of incidents involving liberals misbehaving and that this is truly a very small survey sampling but you would have to admit (if you're being honest instead exhibiting biased partisanship) that both of your examples just got shot down.

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FYI, according to CNN, this may ruin his plea deal on the Oxy thing. You remember where he was abusing Oxy and using phony scripts and that kind of thing?
First of all, yes I do remember the original case involving painkillers. Using what I presume is your CNN article (dated 6-27-06 and linked below), I noted that apparently Florida law allows doctors to prescribe medication in a 3rd party's name under certain conditions. While I may not agree with this law, it is still apparently the law in Florida, at least according to your highly valued CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/27/limbaugh.viagra.ap/index.html
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It is generally not illegal under Florida law for a physician to prescribe medication in a third party's name if all parties are aware and the doctor documents it correctly, said Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for the state attorney in Palm Beach County. He would not discuss specifics in the Limbaugh case Tuesday.


The sheriff's office was continuing its investigation and would turn the case over to prosecutors in several days, Edmondson said. The alleged violation could be a second-degree misdemeanor if Limbaugh's doctor doesn't confirm the prescription.

I noticed even you said this incident may ruin Rush's pleabargain from the previous case. The word "may" indicates something is not certain yet and obviously might NOT happen. After reading the CNN article closely and considering its' information, I still think we probably don't have the rest of the story. Rush may have committed a crime or he MAY not have. It will obviously depend a lot upon the Sheriff's Office's "continuing investigation."


So if they're not done investigating, haven't yet made a determination if they think a crime has been committed or not and neither we nor CNN (those highly respected journalist types) have seen a final report or summary from the Sheriff's Office who is still investigating, don't you think it's possible that we MAY NOT have heard the rest of this story?


After doing all of this research and rethinking everything, I still think that we may not have heard the rest of the story and I now also think you're partisan in your thinking.

p.s. You might want to recheck your signature line.
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