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Old 05-30-2006, 11:08 AM   #1
 
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:21 PM   #2
 
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Default RE: Tell these guys to shut up! What right do they have to speak out?

The right of honor. If you are witness to an illegal act, your duty is to report it.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:10 AM   #3
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Ifferd are you serious? You are duty bound to report something like this, there is no reason for this young man to say something.
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Ifferd are you serious? You are duty bound to report something like this, there is no reason for this young man to say something.
Of course he's not serious. He's trying to make the point, I think, they have the right (even duty) to report this, therefore so does Murtha. If I'm wrong, I'm sure Ifferd will correct me. I don't want to put words in his mouth.

Anyway, there is a big difference between them and Murtha. They are telling of what they witnessed and are not blaming marines.

Murtha is telling of what he read and is blaming marines.

I concede that a group of marines may very well be behind this, but I'm not condemning them yet. In my gut, something tells me thatMurtha's versionjust isn't they way things happened.
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Ifferd are you serious? You are duty bound to report something like this, there is no reason for this young man to say something.
Good night, I just reread my post and realized I left out a VERY important word!!!

Ifferd are you serious? You are duty bound to report something like this, there is no reason for this young man to not say something.

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Murtha is running his piehole for his own political gain ,he admits to voting for the war and supporting it .Now that things aren't so rosie over there he decides to bale out.
There have been four complete investigations into the death of Pat Tillman.His younger brother was there yet no one knows what really happened.
Until this is over he needs to shut up.
By his own words and actions Murtha has become an insergent!





in·sur·gent (P)Pronunciation Key(n-sûrjnt)
adj.
[ol][*]Rising in revolt against established authority, especially a government.[*]Rebelling against the leadership of a political party. [/ol]
n.

One who is insurgent.

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[Latin nsurgns, nsurgent- present participle of nsurgere, to rise up : in-, intensive pref.; see in-2 + surgere, to rise; see surge.]
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If you tried to punish every soldier who killed an enemy prisoner or accidentally or not so accidentally killed civilians, the courtrooms would be jammed with WWII and Korean War vets.
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They (the soldiers in question)said Marines killed those people. They are assigning"blame" eto - pure and simple. ( I heard the interview with one of the marines on radio news this morning - no link)
Of the articles I've read, and the news reports I've seen, the two individual marines did not say that other marines were responsible.
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