Our Economy and Illegal Immigration

[MarkIIVT]

Some of the arguments that the pro-illegal immigration groups are pushing is that these groups are "essential" for our economic growth. Our economy would flounder if they were not here to "save" us. Usually, USUALLY this comes from a liberal or democrat that has historically been in the corner of safer workplaces, child labor laws, and wages for unions, and the ever polular "living wage". The illegal immigration arguments renders all those previous stances moot. The illegals are usually under 18 as well and it is a violation of child labor laws to employ them, and if under 16 I believe it is child endangerment.

So, here is an argument from50-100years ago complaining how not using child labour would be bad for the economy and it would collapse. Sound familiar??

The real issue:
"Lobbyists for business will disagree of course, but their claims of doom and gloom are nothing new. Forty years ago, for instance, California tomato farmers said that their industry would cease to exist if the foreign-labor program of the time "“ the Bracero Program "“ were ended. Instead, farmers invested in harvest machinery, causing output to quadruple and the real price of tomato products to fall.
Fifty years before that, the textile industry predicted disaster if child labor were ended: in fact, at a Senate hearing in 1916, one mill owner said that limiting child labor would "stop my machines"; another said "investors would never receive another dividend"; while a third said that ending child labor would "paralyze the country."
America's economy has done just fine without child labor, and it'll do just fine without more foreign labor...
...It's time to try something new: Attrition through enforcement."
From 50 years ago ending child labor. The same arguments are being used to promote "illegal immigration".
Very good article here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0329-21.htm

[kevin1]

While having the estimated 11 million illegals leave our labor market would be temporarily painful it wouldn't kill a healthy economy . The market always strives to go up , so it would be very difficult to substantially interfere with it , and any effort to do so would be viewed by most citizens as extremely hostile . The back lash would doom any hope they might have of bending us to their will , and in the middle of a midterm election year any such hostile action would be political suicide for the *******s . Let 'em squall , they're only digging their own grave faster .

[summit daWg]

Since "they" are going to boycott our economy on monday, How about we boycott ANY 5th of May (notice it's in ENGLISH) ANYTHING next week!!
I'll bet we'd have a much larger effect on the economy. Anyone in???

[smokeman]

Just thought I would finally sign up and ad some responses to these forums all..
I found this while slipping thru the internet jungle about our illegal unlawful residents whoareuponus here in america... Here some interesting facts...


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40 percent of all workers in L.A. Countyare working for cash and not paying taxes.
95 percent of all arrest warrants issued for murderin Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
75 percent of people on L.A.'s most-wanted list are illegal aliens.
Over two-thirds of all births are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by the taxpayers.
Nearly 25 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are here illegally.
Over 300,000 illegals are living in garages.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegals from south of the border.
Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
Of the 10 million people in Los Angeles County, 5.1 million speak English and 3.9 million speak Spanish.
21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish speaking.
Less than 2 percent of illegals are picking crops but 29 percent are on welfare.
Over 70 percent of the U.S. annual population growth (over 90 percent of California, Florida and New York) are from immigration.
29 percent of inmates in the federal prisons are illegal aliens.
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative.
They also send about $15 billion back to Mexico annually.
It cost Los Angeles $276 million in welfare costs for 100,000 children of illegal aliens
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/kmc/?adate=4/29/2006#1394070
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[summit daWg]

I for onesure could live without all that.

[kevin1]

If the current immigration laws were enforced and the border were temporarily sealed and secured by troops the problem would disappear . All the illegals would be driven out by a lack of work because all potential employers would face prosecution and revenue loss for hiring them , and illegal replacements would find the new secured border a lot tougher to cross . The resulting attrition would dry up the incentive for new illegals to make the attempt ,so the problem would eventually vanish . We don't need new laws , we need to enforce the ones that we have and supplement the INS with the funding and support they need to do their jobs . If that means having the Natl. Guard conduct live fire excercises all along the southern border every night then thats what it should be . Plant some warning signs in Spanish down there and quit ***** footing around .

"If it's brown , it's down" could take on a whole new meaning someday...