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Old 04-24-2006, 07:19 AM   #1
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The protestor who heckled the Chinese President has now been officially charged , so much for free speech ... [&o]
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Old 04-24-2006, 09:08 AM   #2
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Interesting. Word last week was that she'd be out in a few days, with a possible disorderly conduct charge from the city. I guess the Secret Service is playing hardball.

It doesn't really bother me, however. I agree with her statements and motives, but then again, she did make very, very thinly veiled threats of death towards Hu. Just about anyone would be arrested and charged if that kind of thing were said to someone on the street. This was all about media coverage; she knew Hu wasn't about to listen simply because she had a forum from which to speak.

I'm also put-off by the fact that she's a reporter. The press gains certain priviledges that others normally don't, and I expect some responsibilities to go along with them.
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:56 AM   #3
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I find it an ironic twist that she emigrated here from China to find the freedom to speak her mind for a change , and then gets arrested in the nation's capitol for doing just that because the listener happened to be the President of China. It speaks volumes about our so called liberties .
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:09 AM   #4
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I find it an ironic twist that she emigrated here from China to find the freedom to speak her mind for a change , and then gets arrested in the nation's capitol for doing just that because the listener happened to be the President of China. It speaks volumes about our so called liberties .
No one has a right to threaten another individual. If the President wants to declare war on China,I'm all forit, but that's his call to make. As long as he invites Hu as his guest, we have to respect his decision, and treat a "foreign dignitary" as such.
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An interpreter translated Wang's statements to Hu as, "Stop oppressing the Falun Gong," "Your time is running out," and "Anything you have done will come back to you in this lifetime,"

Wang then began to yell at President Bush, according to the documents, partly in English and partly in Chinese, saying, "President Bush, stop him from killing. President Bush, stop him from persecuting Falun Gong."

Apparently she was at it for a couple of minutes during Hu's speech....

"The defendant was frantically waving a yellow banner in the direction of President Hu, which read 'Falun Dafa is good' and also included writing in Chinese," the documents said. Falun Dafa is another name for Falun Gong.

A cameraman standing near Wang pulled the banner from her hands and put his hand over her mouth, and the U.S. Secret Service escorted her from the platform.

What do you think lads? Assault with a Deadly Banner ?
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:36 AM   #6
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I agree that she shouldn't have threatened him , that was just stupid . She can call it civil disobedience if she wants , but that definition ended when she threatened him .
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Who says we have free speech ? Not Hu ...
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:16 PM   #7
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I find it interesting that most online news articles are neglecting to print Wang'squote to Hu, "Your days are numbered." That is indeed a threat, and Wang should've been mature enough to realize it. Hu was under the protection of the Secret Service as per Bush's orders, and I doubt they found her outburst very amusing.
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:20 PM   #8
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I haven't read the article to get a feeling with the context around it, but seriously? "Your days are numbered!"? Is the statement really that much of a threat?
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:32 PM   #9
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I haven't read the article to get a feeling with the context around it, but seriously? "Your days are numbered!"? Is the statement really that much of a threat?
When spoken to a head of state, yes.

I guess I should admit that I really don't have much patience for protesters. I lived in DC, and protests aren't onlyobnoxious to the eyes and ears, but potentially dangerous when people swarm all over the streets, block police and rescue vehicles, throw trash and bottles, start fires, etc. The anti-capitalists are the worst, but I have yet to see one protester who treated people and property with respect.

Protesting is all about screaming to the country/world, "Look at me, look at me, no one else is listening, so I'll make you listen!" Whatever happened to writing a letter to the editor, calling your elected officials, and VOTING (I have to laugh when some PO'ed kid says he's boycotting elections and taking his voice directly to the people)? Third world citizens love to protest, but here in America, I'd like to see a little more civilization when I head into public places.

So, anyway, my point was that Wang's screeching didn't much impress me. She acted like a fool, and she got what she paid for.
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Acting like a fool isn't against the law.

I don't have much use for most protestors, either, but I support their right to do so.
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