What's the answer to smuggling? Stronger punishments to smugglers and those being smuggled?
Kavel Multani, 46, a dual Canadian-Indian citizen who allegedly oversaw the Vancouver, British Columbia-based ring, was charged with nine counts of smuggling and transporting illegal aliens.
In the old days on the Great Lakes it wasn't uncommon for smuggler's boats to be sunk in the middle of the lake to discourage smuggling , maybe we should revisit that policy .
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Kevin, I think you have the right idea, punishment needs to be real harsh. After that the word would get out real fast.
Seems to be certain ethnic groups doing all the smuggling and border jumping.
In this story, they were smuggled into Canada first. Why not stay there if they were fleeing tyranny ad oppression? Seems like a mission to get into the USA, notice the lack of harder details?
I hear stories of illegals getting caught in the middle of no-where, being taken care with food, water and clothes, nursed back to health then given a comfy ride home...
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RE: Bust shows gaps in U.S.-Canada border
The northern border is a joke. Anyone with a compass or GPS and set of hiking boots can cross without detection. In my area there are actually dirt farm roads that cross and there are signs telling you that if you pass this point you need to drive over to customs which is miles away and report. The locals drive those roads every day and don't report.
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C.I., Is it a remote farmland area? Mountains? Nearest large city a thousand miles away?
I can understand that certain areas would be like that and that locals go back and forth on the honor system.
All the locals probably know everyone from both sides
and would recognize strangers coming through town, maybe they wouldn't get too far without someone phoning it in, like a neighborhood watch.
The local traffic probably is about exchanging goods and back and forth buying of basic supplies. I think that is great for both countries.
I can also understand how you would find it easy to exploit. Are there any Cameras mounted anywhere?
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RE: Bust shows gaps in U.S.-Canada border
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C.I., Is it a remote farmland area? Mountains? Nearest large city a thousand miles away?
I can understand that certain areas would be like that and that locals go back and forth on the honor system.
All the locals probably know everyone from both sides
and would recognize strangers coming through town, maybe they wouldn't get too far without someone phoning it in, like a neighborhood watch.
The local traffic probably is about exchanging goods and back and forth buying of basic supplies. I think that is great for both countries.
I can also understand how you would find it easy to exploit. Are there any Cameras mounted anywhere?
Yes CB it is farm type land about 45 minutes from Montreal. You are right about the neighborhood watch thing. The locals will call the border if they see a strange car or truck going through. Many of these people actually have their next door neighbor in the other country so life in those small settlements is like it was years ago. Not much changes from the days when they ran bootleg liquor over those same dirt roads. There are miles of swampy lands that protect the border and they are equipped with sensors and cameras that are pretty sophisticated. Smugglers do cross all the time, some are caught butmany get away with their crime. I guess it is a numbers thing. Sometimes I deer hunt near the border both in VT and NH. When you break out of the woods or swamp you know you are at the border. It is clear cut for anywhere from 100 feet to about 100 yards and there are signs and monuments every so often to make sure there aren't any mix ups. I know people who have tracked deer over the border and some times they get a visit from the border patrol when they return to the vehicles. I think most of the people who evade capture do it away from those dirt roads and do it by hiking through the thick swampy areas. Most of the area is pretty remote and the USBP does a good job but it is a lot of area to cover.
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Do we want a northern border that can stop every deer, moose, bear and
rabbit? I'm 2 miles from the Alaska border and lots of Alaskans will cross into Canada unanounced this weekend in their boats while fishing. Guarding Canadas coast makes more sence to me and No one sneaks in from the arctic.
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Alaska is practically a Canadian Province anyway, we're all brothers up there..I hear the fishing is good.
You raised a good point tangozulu about the coastlines...we do catch boat loads of illegals coming from the orient...smugglers dump them into life rafts or little boats into international waters just outside the canadian lines and make them go the rest of the way on their own. Interesting enough the coast guard does give chase.
Bust shows gaps in U.S.-Canada border
