how one hooker / stripper can destroy a LaCrosse team

The Mind · 04-12-2006, 04:47 AM

The stripper who claimed to have been raped by 5 LaCrosse guys from Duke ........ Coach steps down, games forfeited and the DNA results ? None of the white players on the team had ANY DNA on the gal. The one black Duke LaCrosse player wasn't tested.

Looks like she lied big time, cost the coach her job, sparked racial fights over the whole deal ( why was a poor black woman at a rich white guys party etc ) cost the LaCrosse team games and tainted their whole college careers.

Because a woman alledged she was raped. No proof exists she was from what I've read.

Bob H in NH · 04-12-2006, 06:04 AM

From what I read about this, alot of the controversy was in how the lacrosse team and Duke reacted. Thier first reaction was to NOT cooperate, this sent bad vibes.

Granted it now looks like she lied, but the reaction of the team didn't help any.

Lanse couche couche · 04-12-2006, 06:09 AM

College coaches and players are now under much more scrutiny than in the past for both on the field and off the field behavior. Under such circumstances, bringing a hooker/stripper to a team party is pretty much self-destructive.

Cougar Mag · 04-12-2006, 06:55 AM

I am sure there is more to come. I am hoping for the student's sake no rape occurred but, who is to say that protection was not used by the players if rape indeed happened? Look at it this way........those students are supposed to be at least halfway intelligent being college students, now if they are why would they rape a hooker/stripper and not use some sort of protection? They surely have heard of STD's/Aids. As I said, I hope no rape occurred and until guilt is proven I will stand by innocent until proven guilty.

NCOutdoors · 04-12-2006, 06:57 AM

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From what I read about this, alot of the controversy was in how the lacrosse team and Duke reacted. Thier first reaction was to NOT cooperate, this sent bad vibes.

Granted it now looks like she lied, but the reaction of the team didn't help any.

Many of the students and others protesting the incident and the university's reaction thought the team was being "NOT cooperative" because none of the members of the team would step forward to turn a team mate in. Now it looks like that's because none of them committed rape.

The thing that amazes me is the reaction of the student body and others. They were furious with the DA because he didn't immediately make arrests, they were furious with the administration for not immediately suspending the entire team and they claimed it was because the girl who was (wasn't) raped is black. They basically demanded a lynching and now they look foolish.

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College coaches and players are now under much more scrutiny than in the past for both on the field and off the field behavior. Under such circumstances, bringing a hooker/stripper to a team party is pretty much self-destructive.

Lance, you hit the nail on the head. Duke students are thought to be snooty, white, rich Yankee kids. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant. But a large portion of the Durham population are completely the opposite. Put a bunch of those kids together on a LaCrosse team and they look even more aristocratic. The only thing worse would be polo. I feel bad for them if they really did do nothing but those idiots made their own bed.

NCOutdoors · 04-12-2006, 06:59 AM

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I am sure there is more to come. I am hoping for the student's sake no rape occurred but, who is to say that protection was not used by the players if rape indeed happened? Look at it this way........those students are supposed to be at least halfway intelligent being college students, now if they are why would they rape a hooker/stripper and not use some sort of protection? They surely have heard of STD's/Aids. As I said, I hope no rape occurred and until guilt is proven I will stand by innocent until proven guilty.Â* Â*

I just can't believe that if something DID happen, someone wouldn't turn the culprits in. Who here would protect a rapist team mate at the expense of your education and reputation?

burniegoeasily · 04-12-2006, 07:45 AM

Im still not making a call. There is even more news out. The medical examiner released a statment this morning that stated she had injuries consisent with being raped. Im going to wait to see how this plays out before I say anything. But yall are right when you say the media has made a circus out of this. If it holds up, that the team was innocent, the media deserves to be villinised. Id also like to say that when I was a college athlete, we had many meeting with the head cheeses who basically said, "if you do anything to disgrace this university, you will be removed from the program." We had guys kicked off of every team for doing all sort of things the university felt unfitting. One of which was like what went on with Duke. Those of you who know anything about Texas Tech might remember the Skurlark mess that went on in the 80s. Merve and his buddy had a party and one of the young ladies want to have sex with Merve and a buddy, so they obliged. She cried fool and was proven wrong in court, but it didn't matter, they were canned from the football team. She even had charges filled against her for filling false statements, or something along those lines.

kevin1 · 04-12-2006, 07:49 AM

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I am sure there is more to come. I am hoping for the student's sake no rape occurred but, who is to say that protection was not used by the players if rape indeed happened?

Wearing a condom doesn't prevent leaving DNA traces , a single hair or drop of saliva can bust you , as can epithelials from your skin . It isn't possible to rape someone without leaving trace evidence . On one episode of CSI they busted a guy who was committing rapes and had shaved his entire body and bathed before the acts .

Lanse couche couche · 04-12-2006, 07:53 AM

Several years back, a coach lost out on a job at Alabama because he was caught hanging out in a strip joint. The Iowa State basketball coach lost his job because he showed up drunk at a student party and hugged a couple girls. Steve Alford at Iowa caught hell over the off campus antics of one of his players. And Bob Huggins at Cincinnati lost his job, in part, because of misbehavior by his players. If a coach wants to keep his job nowdays, he has to be part coach, part house mother.Students are also held to a higher standard today.That's just the way it is andsports folks who don;t understand that are asking for trouble.

The Mind · 04-12-2006, 08:07 AM

There's a problem IMO when someone can make an allegation, and the ramifications from that allegation is the ending of the career of a coach, student atheletes and sparking racial tensions across a nation as well as disgracing a program.

EVERYONE at that party should have been a suspect, black or white. Police should have known that. DNA the black LaCrosse player. DNA anyone at that party.

And no, 5 guys raping a girl not leaving DNA evidence behind is impossible. They were likely drunk, nobody could have been that careful and they aren't saying DNA evidence wasn't present, just that it didn't match any of the white LaCrosse players.