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Old 03-13-2006, 09:42 AM   #1
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Found this article on the web, and it very well might be what you'll see happening where laws are passed in South Dakota.

Making abortion illegal won't stop it.

There are between 750 and 1000 legal abortions performed in S.D. a year. I wonder how many will be performed after the law goes into effect?

http://mollysavestheday.blogspot.com/2006/02/for-women-of-south-dakota-abortion.html

You need more.

In the 1960s and early 1970s, when abortions were illegal in many places and expensive to get, an organization called Jane stepped up to the plate in the Chicago area. Jane initially hired an abortion doctor, but later they did the abortions themselves. They lost only one patient in 13,000 -- a lower death rate than that of giving live birth. The biggest obstacle they had, though, was the fact that until years into the operation, they thought of abortion as something only a doctor could do, something only the most trained specialist could perform without endangering the life of the woman.

They were deceived -- much like you have probably been deceived. An abortion, especially for an early pregnancy, is a relatively easy procedure to perform. And while I know, women of South Dakota, that you never asked for this, now is the time to learn how it is done. There is no reason you should be beholden to doctors -- especially in a state where doctors have been refusing to perform them, forcing the state's only abortion clinic to fly doctors in from elsewhere.

No textbooks or guides existed at that time to help them, and the equipment was hard to find. This is no longer true. For under $2000, any person with the inclination to learn could create a fully functioning abortion setup allowing for both vacuum aspiration and dilation/curettage abortions. If you are careful and diligent, and have a good grasp of a woman's anatomy you will not put anyone's health or life in danger, even if you have not seen one of these procedures performed.

Today, I will discuss dilation and curettage -- what used to be the most common abortion procedure before vacuum aspiration took its place. Vacuum aspiration is an easier method, but sometimes remaining fetal/placental material necessitates doing a "cleanup" D&C anyway, so you should know how to do this procedure first.

DISCLAIMER: I am posting this as information only. Whether anyone chooses to act upon this information is their own concern. I believe in the free exchange of information and ideas. I believe this information has been kept from women for too long, and there is no reason they should not know about a procedure being performed on their own body, and no reason women should be kept in the dark about how to perform it -- especially if someone they know is having their health jeopardized by this law.

Instruments needed and their uses

You will need:

One set of uterine dilators (any equipment may be purchased from numerous websites. If you need assistance in finding this equipment, do not hesitate to email me at molly.blythe@gmail.com)
Vaginal speculum
Pregnancy test
One set of uterine curettes
One pair of uterine forceps
One pair of regular forceps
Sterile bags for medical instruments and medical waste
A course of antibiotics
Sedative medication
Pressure cooker
Container of bleach solution: one part chlorine bleach to 10 parts water
Strong soap
Sterile latex gloves
Water-based lubricant
Maxi pads
Clean plastic sheeting and towels
Exam table
Wet wipes

First, let's talk instruments, before we talk implementation:


The rest of the story can be read at the link.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:00 AM   #2
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I think I'm gonna be ill , thanks Charles ... [:'(]
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I believe performing an abortion on yourself is against the law RIGHT NOW - isn't it ?

And you know what ? If thats what a woman has to go through to kill her unborn, then she's a sick twisted person and should be locked up for life. If she kills herself while trying to kill her baby, a fitting end.

Just because people do amazingly sick things doesn't mean we have to legalize, justify, condone and accept them, does it ?
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:29 PM   #4
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Very insightful. The next step meant after abortion becomes illegal there will be people still doing it,legal or not.
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Charlie Pvery insightful as well. Make something as horrific as abortion, murder, incest, rape etc etc illegal and if people still choose to do it ? Hammer them with prison terms and if those people get injured, injure themselves in the process ? All the better irony don't you think ?

I'm all for crazy women wanting to kill their babies using a coat hanger and chancing their own deaths. Someone that cruel SHOULD die for their action in trying to kill their unborn children. Yep, thats a hard ass stance but when you're talking about killing innocent lives ? There is no greater crime than killing a child in my book
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I don't understand what the point is. Cocaine is illegal, but that doesn't stop people from using it. The stuff is imported illegally into the United States by the ton and millions of people abuse the drug.

Child pornography is illegal but it is literally all over the Internet. With special task forces set up to combat such things working as hard as they can work, the judicial system can't keep up with the surge of the online trading of child porn amongst pedophiles. It isn't restricted to hidden nooks and crannies of the Internet; one has to only log into their favorite file-sharing program, such as Kazaa or Limewire, to find it.

Exceeding the speed limits on highways and byways is illegal, but that doesn't stop us from doing it. Tens of millions of Americans speed on a daily basis. Law enforcement agencies dress cops as construction workers posing in a construction zone, place them in unmarked, unsuspicious vehicles and post highway patrolmen beneath overpasses, beside concrete barriers and other places where they are obstructed from view, and still they can't curb speeding.

Suggesting that a law making abortion illegal is senseless because it won't stop illegal abortions is as silly as it would be to suggest that speeding, narcotics and child pornography be legalized.
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Old 03-13-2006, 02:38 PM   #7
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I'm just pointing out what I saw on the interent. I don't think the S.D. law will stand.

This would be the next step wouldn't it?

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All the better irony don't you think ?

Not really.
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