Cheney isn't guilty of shooting man ......

[The Mind]

Scalia was criticized in 2004 for hunting ducks with Cheney while the Supreme Court was considering a case involving Cheney's energy task force.


This month, a lawyer hunting with Cheney in Texas was wounded when he stepped in the way as Cheney fired at a bird.
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Attention to details ......... this said the lawyer stepped into Cheneys gunfire, not Cheney swinging and firing into thw lawyers path.

Isn't this two different things ? It reads almost like the guy jumped in front of Cheneys line of fire. I thought Cheney was swinging with a bird ?

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[BenGarrett]

Cheney has accepted responsibility and the blame. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the story.

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[The Mind]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/26/scalia.hunting.ap/index.html

[vc1111]

Isn't this two different things ?

Any of the stories I read included very clear information about the victim returning to the firing line by way of tall grass without announcing his actions or his presence. That is not to say that Cheney is not ultimately responsible, but that the facts and circumstances show how it happened, and that it could have happened to anyone on this board who has ever spent any meaningful amount of time hunting in the same situation.

[cameronmclain]

...it could have happened to anyone on this board who has ever spent any meaningful amount of time hunting in the same situation.

I agree vc1111, but that is inconvenient to their agenda. They refuse to acknowledge the fact that he may have been in tall grass, making it hard for Cheney to have been able to recognize he was there immediately,etc.The point is- no one whohas spentANY time afield can say that nothing could've happened to them, no matter how "safe" you think you are. I've hunted in tall grass, and I can say from experience that at 30 yards it would've been impossible to see another hunter. We were actually about 15 yds apart and still couldn't see each other. For thisreason we agreed to only shoot straight forward, and to give off our position every few seconds. I'm not saying Cheney isn't to blame, but if anyone has ever hunted, they have been in a situation where someone may have been hurt. Every time there is a shell in your gun there is potential for danger. Again, they won't acknowledge this fact because it doesn't fit their agenda.

[bruce_smith60]

It was a lawer dressed as a man dressed as a quail......

[The Mind]

So Cheney wasn't moving his gun VC ? He most certainly was - quail hunting ia all about swinging your gun with the quail and shooting. Sure, the old man probably stood up there, but to say he "stepped in the way" is inferring that the old man jumped in front of Cheney's shot. Is tricky wording but if you know anything about bird hunting you also know you cannot "step in the way" of a shooter - its the shooter who's responsible.

Cheney took responsibility, I'm not saying that, but the wording here is inaccurate.

[cameronmclain]

The Mind- I see what you're saying. You're concerned with the fact the article reads "He stepped into Cheney's line of fire" instead of"Cheney swung around and put him in his line of fire". I agree it is the shooters responsibility. And he took responsibility.

original: the mind. "Cheney took responsibility, I'm not saying that, but the wording is inaccurate".

So are you taking issue withCheney taking responsibility, or only how the article was written?


On another note....
The Mind- I appreciate having an intelligent discussion with you about this. We may agree, or we may disagree. But it's people withIfferd's level of intelligence and maturity that make it hard to discuss issues:

Chenney DID NOT shoot a man. He shot a man dressed up like a quail.........Thus his decision to act was based on faulty intelligence which caused him toincorrectly concludethe giant "man-quail" wasan "eminent threat." In hind sight though, Chenney has said he would have acted the same -even if he had known there was no quail. Furthermore, Chenney says he is staying the course in his decision to shoot and feels ceratin that quail will soon be found and duely shot - vindicating his actions.

"Dressed up like a quail..." "...based on faulty intelligence..."
I'm not sure if this was meant to be a joke or if this person really believes this (I wouldn't be suprised because of their obvious IQ), but it's a very intellectual and informative statement. It's absurd how some people cannot have a conversation without referencing seperate issues (because they can't back up their opinions with facts). To compare this to the war in Iraq simply because you do not agree with the war ischildish, uneducated, etc.
I think there is a "joke" thread on this site, is there not?