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Old 02-21-2006, 05:02 AM   #1
 
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Default LMAO,***an wants us out of their country to.

***an will propose lending money to the United States to speed up the planned relocation of 7000 marines out of the country.

***an is keen for the troops toleave Okinawa to reduce simmering tensions with local residents, but the United States has said a plan to move the troops to Guam will take decades unless Tokyo picks up much of the approximately $8 billion price tag.
Such spending will be unprecedented and requires parliamentary approval.
The move to Guam is part of the Pentagon's troop realignment plans in the region.
The United States wanted ***an to pay for a quick move outright, but the idea for a loan arrangement emerged in an attempt to gain public support, the Nihon Keizai newspaper reported on Sunday, without citing sources.

***anese officials are uncertain whether Washington would accept ***an's loan proposal, the Nihon Keizai said.

Defence officials were not available for comment on Sunday.
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The two sides in October agreed on a plan that would give Tokyo greater responsibility for security in the Asia-Pacific and are currently trying to finalise the details.

***an hosts 50,000 US troops, including 14,460 marines, the largest marine contingent based overseas.
Nearly all the marines there are located on Okinawa, where residents have expressed a desire for a rapid reduction in US forces because of long-standing concerns about crimes, safety and environmental problems posed by their presence.
The US military realignment also involves a relocation of a heliport in Okinawa to another base on the southern island, and the assignment a nuclear-powered carrier to ***an for the first time.
American troops have been stationed in ***an since the end of the second world warin 1945.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CCD46023-B295-41BA-A8DF-FA969AC5E238.htm

They don't want riots in their country because of the mess inthe east.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:17 AM   #2
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In a decade or generation, ***an will probably rethink that position when China becomes a superpower. More power to them if they want to take control of their own destiny though.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:03 AM   #3
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I think they should fit the bill if they want us to leave. They started the war back in the 40s. We could have left them as a pile of ash and called it good. If we had decided to do so, the rapeing of Nanking (sp) would have seemed like a cake walk. China would have owned them, that is after they destroyed all the ***anes people. Instead we rebuilt their country, making it better and a more powerful force in the global market place. If anything they owe us. They could start by give all the auto plants Harley Davison and the others built back. Who needs a *** bike anyway.[:'(]
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Seems like a bad time for ***an to want us off of their island with the Chinese currently arguing with ***an over the ownership of some islands. Seems to me like they racka common sense.
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I also agree with burnie, they aren't exactly in a position to be making demands on us. If we had so chosen they wouldn't exist today. The same can be said about Iraq and Afghanistan. In my opinion, it would be perfectly fair for us to commandeer one of their oil fields to help quench our thirst for oil. We could completely take both of those countries over if we wanted to, because we did win the wars after all. Yet we are a virtued nation and instead of taking them over we have given them their freedom and made their nations better, as I believe we should have. Claiming one of Iraq's oilfields only seems fair, though. They've already gotten the blood of our soldiers and their freedom, they ought to be offering to give us one of their oilfields- they have plenty of them around.
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Since you don't like our goverment I can see why you would believe that. I have been there seven or eight times, never heard it from them.
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Tell you what. Let ***an pay half the tab (only $4 billion) and we should move this year. I think the U.S. needs to rethink a lot of strategic troop placements and stop subsidizing many of these local foreign economies of governments that don't support us anyway. We don't need troops in Germany or ***an. Let them pay their own way.
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Tell you what. Let ***an pay half the tab (only $4 billion) and we should move this year. I think the U.S. needs to rethink a lot of strategic troop placements and stop subsidizing many of these local foreign economies of governments that don't support us anyway. We don't need troops in Germany or ***an. Let them pay their own way.
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Not saying this isn't true- but...
Are you getting your news from Al Jazeera now? That's even worse than the LibCrazy news stations in our own country.

They might want us out of their country- but they sure don't mind coming to ours to go to school and get rich. I bet they won't be leaving our country, though. What do you bet?
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JBG you are so very uninformed, and you picked the wrong group to do that. I worked in ***an off and on for five years and spent a whole summer on Okinawa, and a whole year on the Mainland of ***an.

The majority of the Nihon-jing, are OK with us Amerika-ge-jing. There is a Nationalist Party that runs around all the cities blaring out Nationalistic slogans at all hours of the night, but they are a minority and probably do not even reach 10% of the total population.

Most of the ***anese want us, they may notlove us, but they do know they need us, not only for the CHina thing, but to keep their northern Islands and maybe get some land back from Russia.

In Okinawa, (which is a little like PR commonwealth equilivant) there is about a 30% against the US, but they have always been there, and about 50% supporting the US, because those know that the US goes so goes the money, and about 20% who don't care and are live and let live folks. These are great ***anese folks to know, if ya go there meet one learn a lot and live a little!

FYI, there is not only 7000 marines there, there are 2 other Marine bases, 3 army camps, 2 rec centers and a couple of Air Bases thrown in too! Kadena is huge, and yes the "locals" are ther to make money, huslte, and have fun and they don't care who with. There is a little bar I used to go to called "American Bar", it serves Guiness (the only place that does on the Island) on tap. But I like Sapparo beer better. This bar is FULL every nibht of yes ex-pat Americans, but a herd of Locals too. Great Place!

Besides, if the Americans leave, just up the road on Gate Street (gate 2 I think) from the American Bar there is .... Bill Clinton Peace Park, dedicated at the G-8 summit when I was there working!! So that would probably go. Oh and President Bill Clinton was the one that negociated and signed the treaty extensions to keep the US bases as they were with the givback of theOkniwian land stated below and saw to it that it was funded. They made a big deal out of it during that G-8 summit and it was in all the Papers, Asahi Times, Yomuri Shinbun, and Stars and Stripes. Wasn't that YOUR guy?

We are turning back land to the Okinawians and to the ***anese as well, Most of these "movements" and "outrages" boil down to a local who wants the land. The last land we turned over in Okinawa was supposed to be to set up an "International Free Trade Zone". It ended up in a local's possessionthat had political clout and connections, he turned it into a very exclusive resort and golf course, he sold out his protesters and supporters. They were upset.

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***an hosts 50,000 US troops, including 14,460 marines, the largest marine contingent based overseas.
Nearly all the marines there are located on Okinawa, where residents have expressed a desire for a rapid reduction in US forces because of long-standing...
You forgot Iwakuni, Sasebo, Irozaki, Akazaki, Tsrumi, Zama, Yokota, Yokusuka, Misawa, Hachinohe, US ConsulatS and Embassy, and several others I have never even been to!! We leave ***an looses out on a HUGE amount of bucks. They want us to stay.

As for your troop numbers we have a boatload more than the number you quoted and currently the largest posting of Marines off of US soil is Iraq.

I would buy you a clue on this topic, but it would be money wasted. If you are fgonna talk about something you had better know what you are yaking about, because it is a big world, and you never know, someone on the other end may have actually been there and knows the story for real.

The ***anese are a wonderful people and as a country a great friend. The ***anese love us awhole lot more than they hate us. And they are real, unlike the French! And unlike the French, THEY are GRateful!
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