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Old 02-08-2006, 08:31 PM   #1
 
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Default Army blasted over soldier"s body armor

Sympathizers raise nearly $6,000 to repay Army for missing item


By Eric Eyre
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West Virginia"s two U.S. senators asked top military leaders Tuesday to explain why 1st Lt. William "Eddie" Rebrook IV had to reimburse the U.S. Army $700 last week for body armor and other gear damaged after he was seriously wounded by a roadside bomb in Iraq.
More than 200 people "from West Virginia and across the country " donated more than $5,700 to Rebrook after reading about his body armor payment to the Army.
Rebrook, 25, who was medically discharged from an army base in Fort Hood, Texas, last week, said he wouldn"t keep the donations. He"s passing along the money to charity and a Louisiana woman who lost her home in Hurricane Katrina. He said the woman"s son helped save his life in Iraq.
Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., sent a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Tuesday, demanding that the Army refund Rebrook"s money immediately.

http://www.wvgazette.com/static/stories/2006020719.html

There has been alot of talk about the junk armor our soldiers gotten that is supposed to be the "best"
And some were forbidden from weraing the upgraded stuff they bought on their own account..
but my right wing frienzzzzZZZZ slap on another yellow ribbon decal on your gas sluping 4 x4 all together now you bleating sheep "support the troops"

This is the support the republicans are giving our troops in their war.Now do they really care about our soldiers lifes?Give them junk armor and have their insurance coverage change if they use their own bought armor that is better than the issued armor.This government is a !@#$ing joke.
I am against the war but I do support our troops who gotcaught into this war.I aseveryonebelieve they should have the best armor that money can buy and not have to pay for it themselves.This is so !@#$ing wrong.
Ok,You are going to war for us,But you have to buy your own armor but we will lend you the guns and ammo. Contract details below.
If you break,destroy or lose your weapon or gearin battle, it will be deducted from your pay till paid in full. If you are killed in battle it will be deducted from your insurance fund.
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Do you ever have any "original" thoughts of your own? or do you simply content yourself to post the thoughts and opinionsof others...

Where is the "meat" of the article...You know...things like the "Facts"???

Pesky things like details and specifics are needed to form an opinion as to the right or wrong of a situation.
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Also, What does the second cut-and-paste have to do with the first cut and paste...

Is the second one your opinion? Or did you feel compelled to add it in just to show your liberal leaning...
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:05 AM   #4
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There has been alot of talk about the junk armor our soldiers gotten that is supposed to be the "best"
And some were forbidden from weraing the upgraded stuff they bought on their own account..
but my right wing frienzzzzZZZZ slap on another yellow ribbon decal on your gas sluping 4 x4 all together now you bleating sheep "support the troops"

This is the support the republicans are giving our troops in their war.Now do they really care about our soldiers lifes?Give them junk armor and have their insurance coverage change if they use their own bought armor that is better than the issued armor.This government is a !@#$ing joke.
I am against the war but I do support our troops who gotcaught into this war.I aseveryonebelieve they should have the best armor that money can buy and not have to pay for it themselves.This is so !@#$ing wrong.
Ok,You are going to war for us,But you have to buy your own armor but we will lend you the guns and ammo. Contract details below.
Sounds like his armor was good stuff and probably saved his life. I guess your little rant has been officially shut down.

I kind of doubt the veracity of the story. If this man was charged for his body armor that was lost, we would have heard the same story 1000x over from others being wounded.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:41 AM   #5
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Why should a sodier have to reimburse the army for bodt armor?

Why not let a soldier upgrade his own body armour?

Anyone?
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:00 AM   #6
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Why not let a soldier upgrade his own body armour?
I'm guessing that the equipment used has to be approved by the chain of command. The soldiers are already loaded up pretty heavy, 10 extra lbs of armor might be enough to slow or hinder the soldier enough to make him a danger or liability to the others who are with him. Its possible to give every soldier enough armor to keep them relatively impervious to small arms fire, but they won't be able to move and would be completely useless.
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:02 AM   #7
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Google his name. I found the article above, and this:

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[align=left]Harris ran to where the soldier, Lt. William Rebrook of the 1st Cavalry Division, was lying next to his Bradley. The field medic had tied a tourniquet on his right arm to staunch bleeding from a severe shrapnel wound. He had been standing in a Bradley turret when the bomb exploded. He also suffered what looked like a minor head injury.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Harris helped several soldiers put 24-year-old Rebrook on a stretcher and carry him toward the Black Hawk, whose rotors never stopped whirring. As they neared the door, someone lost their footing and dumped Rebrook on the hard pavement. That happens a lot, Harris said later, because soldiers move too fast trying to get their buddies to the aircraft.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Rebrook, of Charleston, W.Va., was strapped into the litter, and the helicopter took off after just three minutes on the ground. He was conscious but pale and shivering, showing signs of shock.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Harris put an oxygen mask over his face and a blanket over his body. Rebrook's desert camouflage top was soaked with blood.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]It took eight minutes to fly back to Baghdad, over trash dumps and palaces, to the site of the 86th Combat Support Hospital. Upon landing, hospital medics drove a small-wheeled vehicle to pick up Rebrook and take him into the trauma center. Harris hopped on.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Inside the hospital, medics and nurses lifted their patient into a gurney."God, that hurts so bad," he moaned.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]"Let's get him some morphine," said an army doctor, Lt. Col. William Smith.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]"I already had one," Rebrook said."[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Well, we're gonna get you some more."[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]A nurse took the hand of his injured arm: Can you squeeze my hand? "No," he said.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Within minutes, he would go in for a cat scan and then up to surgery, doctors said.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]News reports would later quote his father saying that doctors put pins in his multiple fractures and put him on a plane to a hospital in Germany.[/align]
It's on this site:http://www.iraqwarnews.net/2005_01_17_archive.html
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:04 AM   #8
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When he turned in his gear last week, Rebrook said he was told to pay nearly $700 or face not being discharged for weeks. The bill included a $570 charge for his Kevlar vest and gear destroyed in battle, and $130 for other lost items.
This is from the article.

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I dont know, i will have to ask my son some of these about baody armor sometime when i see him.( we did dicuse geneva& the rules some& weapons etc)

I know he/they have to by uniforms & a few things that was given to milatary personal at one time i think.( sndfood service/subcontractors etc)

Why not wear a non govermt issue vest is the question to?and faulty vests& equipment?

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"but my right wing frienzzzzZZZZ slap on another yellow ribbon decal on your gas sluping 4 x4 all together now you bleating sheep "support the troops"
This is the support the republicans are giving our troops in their war.Now do they really care about our soldiers lifes?"
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WASHINGTON - Nearly a year after Congress demanded action, the Pentagon has still failed to figure out a way to reimburse soldiers for body armor and equipment they purchased to better protect themselves while serving in Iraq.
Soldiers and their parents are still spending hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars for armor they say the military won"t provide. One U.S. senator said Wednesday he will try again to force the Pentagon to obey the reimbursement law it opposed from the outset and has so far not implemented.
Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said he will offer amendments to the defense appropriations bill working its way through Congress, to take the funding issue out of the hands of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and give control to military unit commanders in the field.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9524109/

It appears from this article and a couple others I have read that upgrading has been going on for some time.
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