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Old 02-08-2006, 08:47 AM   #1
 
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i was reading in the editorial section of one of my favorite bow hunting mags (i think it was petersons bowhunting) a guy wrote in and was pretty mad about how the mag and some of the journalists bash dems. he went on to say that he was proud to be a demicrat and a hunter and gun owner etc. and that the rest of us should get educated . that the dems are not anti gun and anti hunting. i have done my fair share of research on this and i found only a tiny handfull of demicratic candidates for any office state local or federal who support hunting or gun owners rights. i summarized what the gentleman said so it may not be word for word butits dang close. what are your views dowe have dems on the forum . let me know if i am wrong about dems i sure have been wrong before but i dont think i am this time. in majority dems are anti hunting and anti gun.
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Not every Democrat is anti-hunting and anti-guns, and not every Republican is pro-hunting and pro-guns. But if one party or the other was going to be responsible for the downfall of either our hunting privileges or our gun ownership rights, it would be the Democrats. Period. There's no disputing that, and any argument that any Demmy tries to make to the contrary is futile. You can rarely paint an accurate picture when you paint with the proverbial broad brush, but when 80% of the party favors a certain policy, then that party becomes identifiable by that policy. Maybe that isn't fair to the few Democrats who do support gun ownership rights, but that's the way it is.
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thaks guys thats the kind of information i was looking for .
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:24 AM   #5
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Va. is fairly similar to NC, with the exception of the liberals in No. Va., almost all Democrats in Va are what is refered to as Dixiecrats, basically that means that they are more conservative then 90% of republicans.
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:26 AM   #6
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Democrats are not anti-hunting.While most high-level democrats DO support gun-regulation, but those regulations rarely, if ever, affect the hunting community.

Specifically, the majority of second amendment challenges are spearheaded by democrats, but the subject matter of those bills are not hunting-related. Instead, they focus on assault weapons, background checks, fully-automatic weapons, etc. (not deer rifles and grouse guns)
Most NRA gun nuts are also hunters, so that explains why they're diving off the deep end over every piece of gun-related legislation. They try to characterize every gun-related item as an attack on hunting, which it simply is not.

I'm a democrat and a very serious, very well-informed hunter.

When you hear people talking about democrats being anti-hunting, they are simply trying to undermine the democratic party and bolster republican support. This is the lowest, most juvenile form of politics, but it works, so they keep doing it.

As an example, I hear people on here using the term "tree hugger" very loosely, in a derogatory manner,to describe anti-hunters, when, in fact, a "tree hugger" is a term for conservationist. Were it not for conservationists, we wouldn't have any hunting. These same guys cry the blues about their hunting grounds being wiped out for Walmart.

So, don't believe everything that ya hear. Most of it is agenda-backed, uneducated paranoia. Make your own opinions, and you'll be much farther ahead.

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Old 02-08-2006, 09:26 AM   #7
 
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Now, Ifferd, if you are portraying Bush as anti-gun simply because he verbally supported the AWB, then you're painting in black & white as much as anyone, aren't you?

Trying to suggest that Reagan was indirectly responsible for Brady's anti-gun actions is also pretty far-fetched.

Finally, do you have some sort of beef with the NRA's candidate endorsements? I've watched them over the years and found them to be VERY accurate, and they don't endorse along party lines.
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Amen BG, Ifferd is a libbie anyway and seizes ANY chance he can to show his dems "greatness". Come on, how ANYONE could believe Reagan had ANYTHING to do with the moronic Brady's is childish at best. My 5 year old clearly understands that relationship better then Iffy.

The Dems are but a shadow of what they once were. How ANYONE who calls themselves a Democrat yet they still hunt, fish, own guns and in general just want to live and believe in a conservative life in America is beyond me! DON'T support the Dems just because you don't like something the Reps do. Once was the time when old southern Dems were the party of the working class and were very conservative and would often be seen out hunting and promoting their NRA membership. But now it's not that way. The nutso fringe leftwingers have highjacked the party and they will CRUCIFY anyone in their party who does not at least shutup about conservative viewpoints. That is simple WEAKNESS if you ask me.

Politics on the state and federal levels is nasty at best. But your support and money given too the Dems goes DIRECTLY too the support and wishes of men such as John Kerry, Fatboy Kennedy, Diane Finestein and of course that idiot Howard Dean. Slice it anyway you want to, but that is the cold hard truth of the matter.

The communists have a better foothold in the Democratic party right now than do the conservative gun owners who just don't like the Republicans!
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Not every Democrat is anti-hunting and anti-guns, and not every Republican is pro-hunting and pro-guns. But if one party or the other was going to be responsible for the downfall of either our hunting privileges or our gun ownership rights, it would be the Democrats. Period. There's no disputing that, and any argument that any Demmy tries to make to the contrary is futile. You can rarely paint an accurate picture when you paint with the proverbial broad brush, but when 80% of the party favors a certain policy, then that party becomes identifiable by that policy. Maybe that isn't fair to the few Democrats who do support gun ownership rights, but that's the way it is.
I think Ben has nailed it. The 20% of Dems who are pro-gun and/or pro-hunting (not always the same thing unfortunately) are largely defined by the 80% who are anti-gun.
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The catfish of the demo party are the antigun persons.




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