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I totally disagree with anyone who thinks borrow and spend is a conservative philosphy. Those 2 concepts are diametrically opposed.
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I totally disagree with anyone who thinks borrow and spend is a conservative philosphy.Â* Those 2 concepts are diametrically opposed.
Who's passing the bills and signing them?

Are they liberals?


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Nope. But they aren't conservatives either. They are being passed and signed by the modern Republican Party, which is certainly not conservative.
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Remember Reganomics? Yes it did crush the USSR, but deficit spending went through the roof.


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Ifferd, I believe if you reread my above statement and consider it carefully, you'll find that I've agreed with your opinion and have argued against people who believe borrow and spend is a conservative philosophy. And yes, that opinion also goes towards the Republican dominated congress that is catering to the Democratic minority's liberal spending demands and Bush who is foolishly and blanketly signing these liberal spending bills without using the veto power granted to him.
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The philosophy of "Borrow and Spend" as always, is unsustainable. Now, this broken logic is being passed off as somehow "Conservative" in nature when in reality it is an Ultra-liberal philosophy supported by pretend conservatives who ultimately catre to the Military-Industrial complex via fierce lobbying and cronyism.
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There seems to be a disconnect between the data and the conclusions you draw. I don't dispute your point above, however ifyou are concerned by the trickle of red ink from defense spending you should be absolutely agast at red ink hemorrhaging out of entitlement programs and the social welfare system.
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The philosophy of "Borrow and Spend" as always, is unsustainable. Now, this broken logic is being passed off as somehow "Conservative" in nature when in reality it is an Ultra-liberal philosophy supported by pretend conservatives who ultimately catre to the Military-Industrial complex via fierce lobbying and cronyism.

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There seems to be a disconnect between the data and the conclusions you draw. I don't dispute your point above, however ifyou are concerned by the trickle of red ink from defense spending you should be absolutely agast at red ink hemorrhaging out of entitlement programs and the social welfare system.
I'm not saying this about Ifferd, but there are Democrats who, it seems, believe that defense spending is "bad" red ink, and entitlement spending or keeping poor folks dependent on the government is "good" red ink. (Good, because it buys them votes.)
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Blaming this on the minority is laughable at best Cal. I expected better than that from you.

The spending increases in the last few years have been at the President's request. He asks for the spending measures in theWhitehouse version of the budget submitted to Congress each year - and he has been getting his wish list each time. He's catreing to no minority.

The majority is in control of the spending and had consistently filled the president's requests. This budget follows suit with requests for more increases by the president.

He's got veto power and doesn't use it to curb the spending because he is the very one who has asked for the increases. He won't veto his own budget requests - and hasn't - because the majority has sent him just what he asks for.
I'm not "blaming" this on the minority Ifferd, I'm just not letting them off the hook. The votes needed to pass this red ink spending came from Republicans who "claim' to be conservative but aren't. The President who signed as opposed to vetoing this red ink legislation is a Republican who claims to be conservative. And last but not least, I doubt if you can find more than a handful (yes, more than 5) Democrats who voted against or spoke out against the red ink spending. I know the Dems leadership certainly didn't speak out against this red ink spending. So I'm not trying to put all the blame for this red ink spending on the minority Ifferd but I'm also not willing to give them a free pass either.
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