The biggest lier on the face of the earth.And you won't find this on U.S mainstream news either.America censorship,I am glad they can't keep the web quiet on this to let people see who he really is.And this is the same thing he is doing with Iran also.Can you blame Iran for wanting bombs?
Tony Blair told President George Bush that he was "solidly" behind US plans to invade Iraq before he sought advice about the invasion's legality and despite the absence of a second UN resolution, according to a new account of the build-up to the war published today.
A memo of a two-hour meeting between the two leaders at the White House on January 31 2003 - nearly two months before the invasion - reveals that Mr Bush made it clear the US intended to invade whether or not there was a second resolution and even if UN inspectors found no evidence of a banned Iraqi weapons programme.
"The diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning", the president told Mr Blair. The prime minister is said to have raised no objection. He is quoted as saying he was "solidly with the president and ready to do whatever it took to disarm Saddam".
The disclosures come in a new edition of Lawless World, by Phillipe Sands, a QC and professor of international law at University College, London. Professor Sands last year exposed the doubts shared by Foreign Office lawyers about the legality of the invasion in disclosures which eventually forced the prime minister to publish the full legal advice given to him by the attorney general, Lord Goldsmith.
The memo seen by Prof Sands reveals:
· Mr Bush told the Mr Blair that the US was so worried about the failure to find hard evidence against Saddam that it thought of "flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft planes with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours". Mr Bush added: "If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach [of UN resolutions]".
· Mr Bush even expressed the hope that a defector would be extracted from Iraq and give a "public presentation about Saddam's WMD". He is also said to have referred Mr Blair to a "small possibility" that Saddam would be "assassinated".
· Mr Blair told the US president that a second UN resolution would be an "insurance policy", providing "international cover, including with the Arabs" if anything went wrong with the military campaign, or if Saddam increased the stakes by burning oil wells, killing children, or fomenting internal divisions within Iraq.
· Mr Bush told the prime minister that he "thought it unlikely that there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups". Mr Blair did not demur, according to the book.
The revelation that Mr Blair had supported the US president's plans to go to war with Iraq even in the absence of a second UN resolution contrasts with the assurances the prime minister gave parliament shortly after. On February 23 2003 - three weeks after his trip to Washington - Mr Blair told the Commons that the government was giving "Saddam one further final chance to disarm voluntarily".
He added: "Even now, today, we are offering Saddam the prospect of voluntary disarmament through the UN. I detest his regime - I hope most people do - but even now, he could save it by complying with the UN's demand. Even now, we are prepared to go the extra step to achieve disarmament peacefully."
On March 18, before the crucial vote on the war, he told MPs: "The UN should be the focus both of diplomacy and of action ... [and that not to take military action] would do more damage in the long term to the UN than any other single course that we could pursue."
The meeting between Mr Bush and Mr Blair, attended by six close aides, came at a time of growing concern about the failure of any hard intelligence to back up claims that Saddam was producing weapons of mass destruction in breach of UN disarmament obligations. It took place a few days before the then US secretary Colin Powell made claims - since discredited - in a dramatic presentation at the UN about Iraq's weapons programme.
Earlier in January 2003, Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, expressed his private concerns about the absence of a smoking gun in a private note to Mr Blair that month, according to the book. He said he hoped that the UN's chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, would come up with enough evidence to report a breach by Iraq of is its UN obligations.
The extent of concern in Washington at the time is reflected in the plan to send US planes over Iraq disguised in UN livery - itself a clear breach of international law.
Prof Sands also says that Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Britain's UN ambassador at the time, told a colleague from another country that he was "clearly uncomfortable" about the failure to get a second resolution.
Foreign Office lawyers consistently warned that an invasion would be regarded as unlawful. The book reveals that Elizabeth Wilmshurst, the FO's deputy chief legal adviser who resigned over the war, told the Butler inquiry, into the use of intelligence during the run-up to the war, of her belief that Lord Goldsmith, the attorney general, shared the FO view.
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
Wrong! Bush stated that if Saddam came clean and showed us he destroyed the weapons, or stepped down from power we wouldn't go in. If Bush was h&ll bent on going in, he wouldn't have given control over whether we go in or not to Saddam, period!
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
Johhnyb, do you believe in all the UFO sightings claimed in N.M.? Just wondering if you believe everything you read?
Be careful, your liable to see anything on CNN... you know the "Clinton New Network"...
I wish you could meet my next door neighbor where I have my lake house, he is a real conspiracy thrill seeker too, you guys could solve all the worlds problems..
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
Yes,your right.If it's not on ABC, NBC, CNN or Fox I guess it's all just propaganda. Half a trillion war , a needless war , 2200 dead americans 15000 severely injured .. god knows how many iraqis ...
Not a peep from the U.S media.
But it's being widely reported in the UK, Europe and other areas of the world, However Foxnews, CNN and other American outlets have appeared to miss this story, or only provide a tiny blurb.How can this be?Are all the countries plotting a conspiracy against the U.S?
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But it's being widely reported in the UK, Europe and other areas of the world, However Foxnews, CNN and other American outlets have appeared to miss this story, or only provide a tiny blurb.How can this be?Are all the countries plotting a conspiracy against the U.S?
You are so right!!!! CNN is especially well known for supporting Bush, and all Republicans for that fact. They'd never run a story against him...
Can you provide one link to a European media outlet that has carried this story? (Besides tabloids equivalent to our Weekly World News)
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
This is old news. Wasn't this called the Downing Street Memo? The liberal whackos breifly mentioned this about a year or so ago. It meant nothing and went nowhere. If Bush is as bad as you libs think he is, he'd be in jail by now. Democrats yell and scream about nothing.
Guess what - Gore lost the election. Too bad, he would have been great in all the situations we've had. Can you imagine his reaction to 9/11??? He'd probably be mad about the polution from the burning buildings and his global warming crap. Liberals need to get out of the way and let grown-ups run the country.
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
I just wonder what you think it accomplishes to post "they said he said" stuff? Is it helping to change the current situation? Does it provide alternatives? Just put "I hate Bush" in your signature, and you'll save youself a lot of time copying/pasting. Funny how many post of yours I enjoy and agree with you on...Ain't people strange? Peace brother hunter.
RE: Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
I found this very interesting
Mr Sands' book says that the meeting focused on the need to identify evidence that Saddam had committed a material breach of his obligations under the existing UN Resolution 1441. There was concern that insufficient evidence had been unearthed by the UN inspection team, led by Dr Hans Blix. Other options were considered.
President Bush said: "The US was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach."
He went on: "It was also possible that a defector could be brought out who would give a public presentation about Saddams WMD, and there was also a small possibility that Saddam would be assassinated."
Speaking to Channel 4 News, Mr Sands said:
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Bush told Blair we're going to war, memo reveals
Half a trillion war , a needless war , 2200 dead americans 15000 severely injured .. god knows how many iraqis ...
