Recent threads out here as well as recent coversations with people in my life have led me to think about this subject. Could be a touchy subject, but doesn't really have to be.
Does it matter what color you are?
Two thoughts I have on this:
1.) No it obviously does not, IF you are working, not stealing, battering, murdering, raping.... what does it matter what color you are?
2.) IF you are stealing, battering, murdering, raping, it still doesn't matter what color you are - people of all walks committing such acts should be dealt with accordingly.
But...
The guy with the prong thing with the long handle sitting on my other shoulder thinks things like this:
I am for the most part leary if not completely disgusted with a few breeds of folks on this planet when they are in my back yard. Why? Oh... the recent attacks on our soil, the recent erosion of our economy by illegals, etc...
You?
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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
We are all prejudiced. We all "pre-judge" in many parts of our lives. When my wife says "say, if you aren't doing anything right now . . ." Guess what, I have prejudged what she is going to talk to me about. She might say, " . . . why don't you drive out and buy an expensive bottle of French champagne, chill that sucka up, and enjoy some relaxing pleasure while I do the dishes." . . . but my experience suggests this probably isnt' going to happen. When my boss says "You did an outstanding job meeting the challenges of the past year . . . " Guess what, I have prejudged what my boss is going to talk to me about. He might say ". . . therefore I'm recommending you for a well deserved 20% salary increase." . . . but my experience suggests this probably isn't going to happen.
It is natural to prejudge and to have expectations. This is called living in a context. It would be difficult to cope without a context. I guess where prejudice derails us or harms us is when we get closed to the alternative, when our expectations overrule our senses.
I'm not sure where this thread is coming from. If the point is profiling when it comes to law enforcement -- particularly fending off terrorism -- it is foolish to ignore the context, in my humble opinion.
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Ill admit I have prejudice. Not for color but for culture. Like the self centered rap culture. I have nothing to do with it. Its not black, its not brown, its not white. Its the ideals of the culture.
[/align]Id wager others here are the same. Like for instance; When my buddies and I are on a road trip on our bikes. We wear leather, not so much cause its looks cool, but because its the only thing that will save your hide if you go down at 70 miles an hour. Westop off at small towns to eat and are meetwith looks ofdisapproval and in some cases are snubbed. Not because of the color of our skin (we are black white and Hispanic) but because some of us have long hair, tattoos, and fit the biker gang look. Every one has a pre set assumption of people at first glance.[/align]
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Unintended consequences and God have one thing in common: Liberals don’t believe in either of them.
I'm not happy with illegal immigrants from Mexico or Mexican drug smugglers, but don't see that as an indictment of all Mexicans. If you look at the casuality lists from Irag, there is a disproportionate number of Mexican-Americans and Mexican nationals. Also, people are often eager to hire Mexicans, even if they are illegal, because they will actually take a job, show up on time every day, and work hard. Hard to be predjudice against folks who fight for the country and work hard at their jobs. There are a lot of lazy white folks sitting on their couches every day doing nothing but playing video games,cooking methamphetamine, or cranking out kids that they can't afford to raise. I'd love to trade them to Mexico in exchange for some illegals. White trash will drag this country downas quick asanything else.
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Ill admit I have prejudice. Not for color but for culture. Like the self centered rap culture. I have nothing to do with it. Its not black, its not brown, its not white. Its the ideals of the culture.
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I totally agree with Burnie on this one.... [8D]
Music (except for {c}rap)has no color barrier. Case in point: I recently picked up that double DVDwithEarth, Wind & Fire AND Chicago together, live at the Greek Theatre! Wow... talk about a concert! Black, white, brown, green with purple polka dots - it didn't matter what color you were. You just jammed along and grooved along to the music!!
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Ill admit I have prejudice. Not for color but for culture. Like the self centered rap culture. I have nothing to do with it. Its not black, its not brown, its not white. Its the ideals of the culture.
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I totally agree with Burnie on this one.... [8D]
Music (except for {c}rap)has no color barrier. Case in point: I recently picked up that double DVDwithEarth, Wind & Fire AND Chicago together, live at the Greek Theatre! Wow... talk about a concert! Black, white, brown, green with purple polka dots - it didn't matter what color you were. You just jammed along and grooved along to the music!!
In the words of brother Sly, as long as you "Dance tothe music".
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kaafir mushrik
Unintended consequences and God have one thing in common: Liberals don’t believe in either of them.
It is natural to prejudge and to have expectations.Â*
Yes it is. I'm not sure we would meet anyone that would say otherwise.
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I guess where prejudice derails us or harms us is when we get closed to the alternative, when our expectations overrule our senses.
Very good point, Alsatian. Very good point. I'm sure we'll see that concept in most every area of our life. But is this ok? Does it protect us? Our family? Our way of life? Our nation? Should it?
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I'm not sure where this thread is coming from.Â* If the point is profiling when it comes to law enforcement -- particularly fending off terrorism -- it is foolish to ignore the context, in my humble opinion.
Honestly, there are many reasons I posted the question, and yes one of them has to do with profiling. Reading VC's homo thread made me think of other things to do with racism, prejudices, whatever the label, as did the thread on prisoners rights to vote (black prisoners in particular), the border issues, etc. etc. Since the beginning of time man has been fighting over who he is.
Check this profiling out:
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Its the ideals of the culture.Â*
Id wager others here are the same.Â* Like for instance;Â* When my buddies and I are on a road trip on our bikes.Â* We wear leather, not so much cause its looks cool, but because its the only thing that will save your hide if you go down at 70 miles an hour.Â* WeÂ*stop off at small towns to eat and are meetÂ*with looks ofÂ*Â*disapproval and in some cases are snubbed.Â*
Honest people easily mistaken for thugs. I to had a similar, rather funny occurance. My buddy and I were all leathered out riding our hogs. We met up in a parking lot to grab a bight to eat before the ride. My buddy walked over to an ATM machine to grab some money. There was a lady at the ATM in a minivan - typical middle-America mom. When my buddy approached with his long hair, chops, black leather, smoking a cig, she freaked out, finished her transaction and squealed out of there in a panic. It was funny.
The other day I profiled a guy at my place of work. I walked into the building from the parking garage with a man of middle eastern descent who was carrying a brown box under his right arm, tightly holding on to it with both hands. I followed him to the elevators and decided to wait for the next one. I fully expected an explosion in the next few moments.
I generally don't like people, but I have no reason to hate people or a way of life. Dislike strongly sure, but not hate.
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We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
I was trying to explain to my daughter last evening why gangster type rap is bad, as well as other certain types of music that promote filth. realized I have a lot to think about.
I live well outside Detroit, a city I not only hate but fear. There are some parts of the city where if you saw two men approaching that were black, you would pretty much know that you were going to be robbed or shot. This is not racism, this is truth.
Same applies for whites in certain parts, depending on what they are dressed like and what vehicles they are driving, (or how loud the thump is from their subwoofers).
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I'm not happy with illegal immigrants from Mexico or Mexican drug smugglers, but don't see that as an indictment of all Mexicans. If you look at the casuality lists from Irag, there is a disproportionate number of Mexican-Americans and Mexican nationals. Also, people are often eager to hire Mexicans, even if they are illegal, because they will actually take a job, show up on time every day, and work hard. Hard to be predjudice against folks who fight for the country and work hard at their jobs. There are a lot of lazy white folks sitting on their couches every day doing nothing but playing video games,Â*cooking methamphetamine, or cranking out kids that they can't afford to raise. I'd love to trade them to Mexico in exchange for some illegals. White trash will drag this country downÂ*as quick asÂ*anything else.Â*
All Mexicans are not bad, you are correct. The ones that are in this country illegally soaking up money to send back to Mexico are bad. Bad for our economy and bad for the lazy slob that couldn't find a job so he went back to the hand out line. Special treatment of any kind to illegal workers in my book is a bad thing.
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If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a civilization, it expects what never was and what never will be.
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