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Old 01-25-2006, 04:24 PM   #1
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http://enews.earthlink.net/article/hea?guid=20060124/43d5b450_3ca6_1552620060124-612825291

No , there's no conspiracy to force us to use only high priced prescription drugs going on here , those micrograms of CFCs are murder on the ozone ...




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I have terrible allergies and use an Albuterol inhaler sometimes every month. As for Primatine I can vouch that it IS bad stuff. The burning of that crap is about as bad as the constricted breathing itself and basically EVERY doctor I know of discourages its youth. BUT I don't like the Ralph Naderites and pinheads in the EPA telling me I can't have medicine because it theoretically depletes the atmoshpere! They better dang well come up with a suitable alternative in a timely manner.

How about the cliams tonight for a ban on Teflon now in the U.S.? Some key ingredient is a supposed carcinogen and without it DuPont says they CAN'T make teflon. They have already paid over $100million in court settlements near the WV plant that makes the substance. I have NEVER been wild about eating from Teflon coated cookware (the article claims EVERY single person in the country has signs of this chemical in their blood, even fetus'. Could that not also mean it was always there then?) but what about lubricants and other industrial and non-ingestion uses?

I feel so safe at night because of the FDA and EPA!
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Old 01-25-2006, 06:57 PM   #3
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BUT I don't like the Ralph Naderites and pinheads in the EPA telling me I can't have medicine because it theoretically depletes the atmoshpere! They better dang well come up with a suitable alternative in a timely manner.
Don't count on it. The smug self satisfied environmentalists haven't found a suitable alternative to DDT yet, and the tens of millions of people who die every year because of the ban on DDT doesn't seem to bother them one bit.

They should keep the FDA and get rid of the DEA as a whole. People are going to abuse drugs no matter how draconian the laws become. If I have a throat infection, I don't need to spend $110 ondoctor's visit to tell me that I need pennicillin, heck even if I didn't need pennicillin, they would prescribe it anyway.
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Old 01-26-2006, 12:31 AM   #4
 
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What alame excuse, a little 1oz inhailer while we don't know what do with agricultural chemicals and they are going to start with the most vulnerable.

money money money money we need more money money money money how can we increase or money money money money


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Old 01-26-2006, 05:38 AM   #5
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Red , the chemical that makes Teflon™ what it is cannot be substituted , it's a flurocarbon .
Here's a link: What is Teflon™
As we've been told endlessly by the environazis , ALL chemicals made by man are evil and should be permanently quarantined for our own protection . Since most "man made" chemicals originate from a natural source in some way their position is doubly ludicrous . Additionally , it's estimated that only a small portion of the tons of chloroflurocarbons that have been produced between the 50s and 70s have just now hit the ozone layer , which means that if they are in fact responsible for ozone depletion then the ozone layer is pretty much screwed anyway . I don't see how those dinky little bottles will make a dime's worth of difference . As for the bloated medical indutry's position on self medication , when they make health care , including prescription drugs , affordable to all then I'll give them more credence . Personally , I've never trusted anyone who has a vested interest in my misery , and never will so long as all they do is milk my symptoms instead of actually healing my ills .

PS:Sorry to hear about your health problems , and I hope that Albuterol is affordable to you , it's just not an option for some folks .
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I have little to no knowledge about inhalers...However, now that this particular item seems to be newsworthy, I don't think it will be long before a suitable propellent will be substituted and a viable replacement will be available...Thats just the nature of things.

With that being said, I would like to comment on "teflon". A few years ago, I was given a cast iron dutch oven by a friend of mine...It took more than a few months to learn how to cook and fry stuff in it without burning whatever was in it...But I learned how.

Then by dumb luck, I read about how harmfull the modern teflon coated cookware was supposed to be, then by coincedence, I ran across article after article about the hazzards of teflon. It seems that there is a unanimous concensus among the folks who "know" about these things, that teflon is bad for humans.

So...I have expanded my cast iron cookware to some eight or ten peices...(plus several more that I rarely use)...

I can honestly say that once a person learns how to cook with cast iron, the food takes on an entirely new taste...I think it is just simply better...The added health benifits are just a bonus.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:25 AM   #7
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I like cast iron too Dave , but I'd hate giving blood every few months just to bleed off the excess iron that it deposits in our bodies . Yes , there is such a thing as too much iron , and with our meat centered diets it's easy to go over the line . Teflon™ does indeed contain chemicals that can harm us , just as iron , aluminum , or stainless steel do , but in it's solid state it's completely inert . The only time it poses a realistic risk is when it gets overheated . You'll find this link illuminating , pay particular attention to page 2:Teflon™
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Old 01-27-2006, 07:35 AM   #8
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Teflon is one of the most inert synthetic materials that exists, it won't hurt you. There's hype about a chemical used in manufacturing teflon and the big scare is that its found in 95% of humans, but then again so is lead, PCBs, mercury, tin, arsenic, radium, benzene, most prescription drugs, and several thousand other harmful potentially carcinogenic compounds in tiny miniscule trace quantities. None of them will harm you unless your body is exposed to elevated levels of one of them- a classic example would be lead levels in avid shooters.

The whole teflon scare is no different that the diet coke scare, the living near power lines scare, the cell phone scare, or the Alar scare. Its all about much ado about nothing. You give university researchers enough time and enough grant money and they'll link anything to cancer by feeding disporportional amounts of the material to rats and then you end up with labels on everything in your house that say "warning this item may cause cancer in California' or you buy a bag of plastic shotshell wads and it has a warning that says "this product contains lead."

Its like the entire country woke up one morning and ate a box of stupids for breakfast.
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:19 PM   #9
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I am in the process of replacing all teflon coated cooking ware with either cast iron or stainless steel. From what I've heard, heating teflon pans too much prior to anything being in the pan will kill a bird dead. That's what "they" say anyway.

Anymore, it's hard to believe just about anyone or anything you read or hear. I will say though that I distrust the medical industry the most of them all, even lawyers and politicians.
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I will say though that I distrust the medical industry the most of them all, even lawyers and politicians.
I think I speak for lawyers everywhere, when I say....

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