This should prove my point! (pet crimes vs. human crimes)

[badshotbob]

For those of you that missed my point of the "Can we kill our pets?" thread, I couldn't illustrate it more perfectly than the recent headlines do.

Serial Rapist gets 60 Day Sentence
Child Rapist gets slap on the wrist

A Vermont judge sentenced a man who repeatedly raped a 6-year old girl for four years to a jail term of 60 days

Compare that story to this story, one which I randomly grabbed, but there are hundreds if not thousands more to compare.
Dog Fight

At least 141 pit bulldogs were seized from several Oklahoma locations in what authorities call the state's largest dog-fighting investigation ever.

At Camille Gann's home along U.S. 75 a mile south of Wetumka, numerous dogs were found chained outside the greenhouse. Their homes: Four-foot plastic barrels.

Gann, 53, was sentenced to 10 years, with three years suspended and was also sentenced to additional suspended time in the multi count case. She is not to possess any dog of any breed until the sentence has been completed. Gann will also have to pay around $9000 in fines and restitution.

So there you have it: In short, you are much better off repeatedly raping little girls than you are fighting pit bulls, or committing any other animal cruelty act for that matter. The courts of this country tell us so.

This type of thing has always bothered me more than most things in life. It's pathetically sad to say the least. I'm hoping that there will be a special place in hell for many judges and lawyers to share eternity with the rapists and murderers of history. A little harsh? I don't think so.

[VT_Hunter1980]

Everyone here in Vermont is outraged at the seemingly insane ruling. We may bea largely liberal state, but we're not stupid. I'm sure that the ruling will be overturned.

[bawanajim]

Any one who harms children or animals should be treated to a life time of abuse from a cell mate that is doing time for beastilty!!!

These crimes are to common in todays world.An island far outin the Northsea seems like a good place to rehab these loosers.

[North Texan]

Smoke dopeor steal a car and it's no big deal. Haul chickens to Oklahoma for a little sparring and you might as well have assassinateda president.

[CalHunter]

I am sickened at the Vermont ruling. IMHO, simply overturning the judge's ruling is just not enough. That moron belongs in prison as well as the rapist.[:@]

[Cougar Mag]

Although the part about raping a little girl and getting a slap on the wrist is appalling, as is any crime against a human being...........that should not lessen sentences for crimes committed against pets or animals. That doesn't make me hold hands with PETA, just makes me wonder why the justice system is sometimes screwed up when it comes to justice for human victims.

One other thing.........I know a few people I consider lower on the totem pole than my pets.

[gonzodemon]

the guy who raped the little girl should be castrated without anisthetic . that being said i move on to the the part that makes no sense. that is the response by some people about cruelty to animals and that it is in some way comparable to the rape of a child. most people who scream about cruelty to animals themselves commit acts that others deem cruel. if you hunt with a bow you stick a razor sharp broadhead into the body of an animal who then runs away to either bleed to death or sufficate depending on shot placement. if you hunt with a gun you do pretty much the same except you are depending somwhat on bullet shock to disable the animal. some might call this cruel. if you fish you snag a fish in his mouth with a razor sharp hook and drag the poor creature who is usualy putting up a fight to your boat where you imprison it in a holding tank or worse stick a stringer in its mouth and then you skin the fish alive. some might call this cruel. we watch as people ride bulls and broncs while gouging them with spurs . some might call this cruel. I AM BY NO MEANS SAYING THESE THINGS ARE CRUEL. i am just pointing out to those who think fighting a few chickens or dogs is cruel or shooting strays is cruel some of the very acts in which you either participate in or watch and take pleasure in watching are thought to be cruel by others. so i say that no animal should be tourtured but you can never compare the rape of a child to any amount of cruelty an animal could indure. i am not necisarily talking about anyone who has posted on this thread just in general from past posts on what is concidered cruel.

[The Mind]

badshotbob ...Deleted by CalHunter...what point are you trying to prove here ? That because sometimes criminals do not get the time they deserve you can threfore justify killing an animal you have a responsibility to ?


There are very, very few people that would see the sentencing of the rapist as fair. The sentencing of the animal cruelty case is probably the hardest sentence that could be passed down. What you have illustrated is that cruelty to animals gets harsh punishment, and deservingly so in my opinion.

What you did not do is justify killing or mistreating an animal. You in fact, did nothing to prove your point.

[badshotbob]

ORIGINAL: The Mind
what point are you trying to prove here ? That because sometimes criminals do not get the time they deserve you can threfore justify killing an animal you have a responsibility to ?

You're not using your mind, The Mind. Let me be clear for those goofing around in the back of the class and not paying attention. By me dispatching an animal of any type in any way I see fit for my purpose, however that may be, could land me more jail time than if I were to serial rape little girls.

Gonzo put it well by saying that raping, abusing, or murdering another human being could never compare to the same with an animal. I'm not condoning cruelty to animals by any stretch either.

Let's look at this responsibility angle you proposed: I have a responsibility (charged by God) to be a steward of the land including animals - this includes the game I hunt. Could I therefore be charged with irresponsibility because I harvested two deer this year? I don't think so.

Oh, you were talking about the cat I no longer wish to have? Let's take a look at that then. The cat was brought into our home based on the desire to have a pet that certainly came with a given amount of responsibility on our part to care for the animal. When circumstances in our lives changed this past year with the addition of a beautiful baby girl to our family, the cat was immediately given consideration as to the viability of fitting into the mix of our household. It's not working out. Should I then put my newborn in jeopardy because of a cat? Are you out of your MIND? It then becomes my responsibility to omit this kink in the well being of my family.

I hate to hear stories about families bringing home a newborn only to find the dog jealous which leads to the death or harm of the child. These people in my mind should do jail time because they weren't responsible enough to take the element of danger our of their household to protect a human life.

So before you accuse me of being irresponsible, think it through first.

What you have illustrated is that cruelty to animals gets harsh punishment, and deservingly so in my opinion.

What you did not do is justify killing or mistreating an animal. You in fact, did nothing to prove your point.

Since it's obvious you missed my point, let me clear it up for you. My intent was never to justify killing or mistreating an animal. My apologies if that wasn't clear to you.

Again, my point was to illustrate how messed up this country's legal system can be with regard to giving rapists and murderers a get out of free card and sending them directly to "GO". I only used my cat as an example. Sure there was more there, but I'm sure you picked up on that as well.

[vc1111]

Haul chickens to Oklahoma for a little sparring and you might as well have assassinated a president.

"A "little sparring?" There's a regional description for ya.

Placing animals in a ring to rip each other apart for the amusement of a group of people is the very picture of animal cruelty.