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Old 12-22-2005, 02:34 AM   #1
 
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The loss of over 2000 us troopsand how many civilians lives so far,and billions of dollars.We acomplished nothing in Iraq other than destruction.But,I know it's not over yet in the middle east.I believe more surprises are yet to follow. GWBush to me is a bad loser and gets upset when he loses. That's all I want to say about that.


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Old 12-22-2005, 04:09 AM   #2
 
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I will now do my best impression of Donald Rumsfeld by asking myself a question and then answering it:

Do I think the war was a good idea? In the short term no, in the long term that remains to be seen. If we come back in twenty years and democracy is flourishing in the arab world, then perhaps our actions will be seen in a much different light.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:25 AM   #3
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"the loss of 2000 troops na billions of dollars?

Get real. The US lost more troops in single days during WWII to unseat a couple of dictators. We spend more money than that every day on welfare in this country to people who have every opportunity to succeed just by living in this country. The people in Iraq will have a future where they don't have to worry about their wives or daughters being kidnapped and raped by soldiers or husbands, fathers, and sons being taken away int he middle of the night to be fed to wood chippers.

Once again, this thread is another case of whiny brats whining about the adults of the world who are solving the world's problems[:@]
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Amen Briman!
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Once again, this thread is another case of whiny brats whining about the adults of the world who are solving the world's problems[:@]
Correct me if I am wrong please. But wasn't this mess brought on by the,,Lieing,cheating,stealing,decieving money hungry so called "adults" that are running our country and not the whining brats who knew the truth about this. If we had real mature adults trying to solve the worlds problems,I don;t think violence would of been their main goal. Bush wanted this war in Iraq.There was no stopping it. Terrorist is like racism,It's never going to go away untill Jesus returns. It can't be won.And by trying to solve the problem,,(I think is BS)he made it worse by useing force for an unjust war.There are goanna be more terrorists in the future than ever before trying to get into this country to bring harm to the innocent american citizens all because of the "adult" trying to solve the worlds bussiness,I ment problems. This is the so called "adult" faults.What is it goanna lead to in america as for freedom to the people?
I am so sick and tired of all the BS that this government is getting away with. And people who are defending him for his lies after lies,how do you tolerate it? You live in a big house with green grass and make 50k+ a year and as long as your life hasn't changed,you don't care.You must lie alot yourself to protect a person like this. What happen to Bin Laden? Yea, I am sure he will be caprured when he is on his death bed minutes before he dies.
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Old 12-22-2005, 09:21 PM   #6
 
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Terrorist is like racism,It's never going to go away untill Jesus returns. It can't be won.
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So you're saying that we shouldn't do anything about terrorism? I'm sorry, Jerkey, but the Democrats had their eight years of power and their opportunity to deal with terrorism as they saw fit. Osama bin Laden pulled off several terrorist attacks both in the U.S. mainland and on U.S. interests abroad during Clinton's administration. By the mid-1990s, it was clear that bin Laden was America's Public Enemy #1. On more than one occasion, we had an opportunity to take bin Laden out. On at least one occasion, in 1995, the Sudanese government knew bin Laden's exact location within their country and offered to capture him for us. They were offering us his head on the proverbial silver platter. Clinton refused. And, in the meantime, bin Laden was strengthening Al Quaida and ever improving his terrorist resources. His terrorist network strengthened from the point it was at in 1992 - able to set off a car bomb and kill a few and injure dozens at the World Trade Center - to the point it was at in 2001, when thousands of American citizens lost their lives and one of our nation's greatest landmarks was destroyed.

We tried it your all's way. It didn't work. So now we're going to try it our way. Bush said no more launching a few dozen cruise missels in response to a terrorist attack and declaring our retaliatory action a success; no more bombing aspirin factories. And our war on terror has been a resounding success. Do you really think that Al Quaida is strong enough today to pull off an attack on the same scale as 9/11? Not even close, my friend. Not even close. You tried it your way, and 3,000 American citizens lost their lives as a result.

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What happen to Bin Laden? Yea, I am sure he will be caprured when he is on his death bed minutes before he dies.
What is it with youanti-war guys? You really think that because we went to war in Iraq we stopped looking for bin Laden? You really think that because the press is no longer talking about our military efforts in Afghanistan and our intelligence and special ops efforts in otherMiddle Eastern countries that they're not happening? Are you really that nimwitted? I'm sorry; I hate to use a personal attack. But I've seen this same ol' line about how we abandoned the searchfor bin Laden time and again and every time I do I can't help but wonder: Are you all reallystupid or justso caught up in your hatred of the war effort that you'll repeat mindless drivel?
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:13 PM   #7
 
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First off,they knew of this comming for 911 and they did nothing,the same as the oklahoma bombing.They was warned,
in the late 90s up to 2000 they reported that saddam had no WMD and could not make any of these weapons and was not a threat..I am sure you remember seeing this on the news,Your a journalist?yes. Now for what reason was it to take the fight to Iraq instead of staying in afghan where it started at? What was acomplished? Hatred and disgrace to our country with lies to start a war in Iraq... You think there won't be another attack on this country from terrorist? The real terrorists are the government. Look at Waco,,innocent children was murdered from the government.How was they murdered? Bychemicals...This was proven to...
I knew this would come up about Bin Laden. Bush just wanted to do the job of takeing saddam out that his father couldn't do. Bin Laden wasn't the main issue,he was the reason to get back over to the east and finish the job for his old man. Journalists are nothing but lieing pigs that don't write the truth about what is going on in this country.To find the truth you have to turn to other countries journalists., the american press is not allowed to publish negative articles or show negative photos from the war.The news is controlled by the government and you cannot deny that.Freedom of press is not as free as it once was either.I am not anti-war ,I am anti-war for BS lies and deception for the reason of money and blood and the power cause I wanted to start this war. I am not anti-Bush either, I am just Anti-Bush behavior as in lies,deception,greed ,murder... You never seen an american news station show the chemicals that the US used on Iraq citizens have you? The same chemical that we was supposed to of went to war for over there,,WMD.How many reasons was for that war allready?5 10? They ran out of reasons and the ones they told was BS. Journalist are the same as lawyers anymore,they hide the truth. And for you to call people stupid shows what kind of person you really are as a human.Not worth my time to deal with.
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Journalists are nothing but lieing pigs that don't write the truth about what is going on in this country.To find the truth you have to turn to other countries journalists., the american press is not allowed to publish negative articles or show negative photos from the war.The news is controlled by the government and you cannot deny that.Freedom of press is not as free as it once was either.
I don't know what news channels and papers you're reading because I see plenty of negative stuff. As a matter of fact, I see more negative stuff than I do good stuff in the media. Actually, when you think about it, probably the first people who would back you up in your argument are these same journalists that you're talking about. Seems to give ya a lot of credit.
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:36 AM   #9
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Jerky Jerk Jerk I think you might be a lonely guy with no one to hear your problems. Your just trying to start fights via computer. Next time I go over their you can hitch a ride. Ill drop ya off in the middle of baghdad, and let you find your way. Then I'll pick you up if your still aaaaaahh ya know alive, and ask ya Would you want to live here. Do these people deserve better. Was it worth taking out a Menice that murdered and tortured his own people. I'm sure you would agree with me after.

I have lost friends, had friends shot. Would I go back again. In a heart beat. When your their you see the other side. Those people are a deserving people. Yes they have some bad, but there is good. So in long way of saying yes it was worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Journalists are nothing but lieing pigs that don't write the truth about what is going on in this country.To find the truth you have to turn to other countries journalists.,
This statement would appear to have an oxymoron embedded within.
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