Why do you think we buy hunting licsense for.Is not that what the money is for.Or am I missing something here.We pay for this job,why should we have to help?You hire a painter to paint your house are you going to help him paint andmove his ladders around for him.If I am paying for a job I expect it to be up to them to do it correctly without my help and if he isn't doing a good job or doesn' show up,Fire them.
Thank God every hunter and sportsman doesn't have fruit loops' attitude or there wouldn't be five million turkeys and 21 million whitetail deer in our country, and elk and black bear wouldn't be being restored to the eastern U.S.
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I preserve and protect as much as I can within my power. This is why I want to be a game warden so I can arrest all the idiots that I dispise. I can't fathom how some ppl have no respect for animals. I have more respect for animals that I do for humans, not much but still, I've had so many problems with other idiots in teh field its just stomach wrenching. I'd say before the season starts, I am 50% excited and 50% irritated at just the fact that I wish sometimes there was no deer hunting. Its kinda like that feeling you would get knowing that you going to get into a fight right after school. Thats the feeling I get right before deer season because I know all the tards are going to be in the fields, shooting at bushes moving, deer at 1000 yards off, and what I have run into lately is the hunting pack. Where abotu 2 or more hunting guys set in one blind together and all unload on one little deer, usually a small doe with automatic shotguns loaded eat with abtou 5 slugs. The little doe is usually about 300 yards away. For a brief min it sounds like a war is going one. Its just pathetic.
What are we paying for then?For them to sit around and just make new laws for next year and push a button and punch out paper tags?I expect them to be doing what the poster posted with our money.If not then why by a liscense? Well there is no law about shoot at deer at 1000yrds away and there is no law about more than one person in a stand.But for the war zone.you must not hunt in large groups where they put people on stand and then you get pushers to drive the deer.Now that is a warzone.Music to the drivers ears knowing they have accomplished what they set out to do.And that was to drive deer to the sitters to blast at them.
We're paying them to protect, conserve and manage our wildlife, and supervise us hunters, of course. But if it were as simple as just paying a fee and stopping there, we'd still be where we were at in the 1920s, when we had about 500,000 whitetail deer and 20,000 wild turkeys in America.
You aren't one of those guys who buys a membership to the NRA and then does nothing else to fight for his 2nd Amendment rights because he thinks his membership to the NRA is enough, are you?
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In late 20's and early 30s this country was inthe greatdepression.People had to hunt for their food.If we would have a depression tomorro there is no way a hunter would be ethical when it comes to feeding his family.The populations of the animals would drop no matter what and if your goanna be sportsman and ethical about it,Your goanna starve to death.So the 20 and 30s does not apply to what I wrote about in this time and age, That it iswhat we are paying for when we purchase tags.They are the ones makeing the laws up. They are the ones who are supposed to be purchasing land and stocking game birds and other wildlife to make sure we have the animals to hunt.Not the other way around. We are paying for this service to them to do this.Period And for the NRA I am not a member of something that is allready guranteed to me till my death and that will be the day they try to physically try to take it away from me and I will not be the only one to die on that day.All I need to protect my sec amen is my sec amen.
You're focusing on the wrong part of the equation, brother! Go back before the '20s and '30s. Go back to the turn of the century. Our game numbers were equally low then. The point is, the abundance of wildlife we currently enjoy didn't come about because everyone took a ho-hum attitude about it. It took dedicated sportsmen and women, the kind of people Ifferd is referring to, who were determined to get it done.
Today, our wildlife numbers are booming. In many areas, our game populations are actually over-populated. But that doesn't mean that conservation efforts end. We still need people willing to go the extra mile, and I'll give you a good example: In Tennessee, we currently have an elk reintroduction project on-going. This project follows on the heels of a VERY successful elk reintroduction project in Kentucky and coincides with an elk reintroduction in the Great Smoky Mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina.
Part of our reintroduction is funded by the state using the dollars created by the sale of hunting licenses. But if we had to rely completely on those sales, the elk reintroduction would have never become reality. It would've either bankrupted our game agency or our hunting licenses would've been jacked up to the point that their costs would've been ridiculous. To make the project possible, around 50 percent of the costs are funded by the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. How does the RMEF get its funds? Through donations of hunters who join the organization because they want to do more to conserve wildlife and hunting lands. In addition to the help of RMEF, there are a lot of folks who donate man-hours to help keep track of the herd, watch for and report potential poachers, develop food plots for the elk on their own land, etc.
On December 18, 2001, several hundred of us climbed into four-wheel-drive vehicles and climbed up a snowy mountain pass here in the Cumberland Mountains to see a couple dozen elk released from RMEF trailers. Today, we have around 300 elk on the ground on the Cumberland Plateau. The Smokies herd has around the same. Kentucky has over 1,000, if I'm not mistaken. Some day in the not-so-distant future, people will be hunting elk in the eastern U.S. just as they hunt them in the west today. Kentucky has already started a limited elk hunt. Tennessee is looking at one in the next several years.
None of that would've been possible if folks had just said, "well I buy a hunting license. That's enough." And that's just one example. What about our flourishing wild turkey flocks? You ever stop to think about where they would be today if not for the National Wild Turkey Federation and the hunters who have donated countless dollars and man-hours to make that organization a reality?
Your attitude towards our sport is irresponsible, IMHO. I mean no offense by that.
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Good topic Ifferd and I totally agree that hunters/fisherman are the real conservationists.
Ben, I totally agree with your comments. Very well said. You are also very lucky along with Kentucky. We in Illinois were hoping the state would reintroduce elk in Shawnee National Forest, but politicians and insurance companies have put the stop to that. As a matter of fact, Farm Bureau, State Farm, and other insurance companies have a lot of imput as to game management policies here in Illinois, although many in Springfield will deny that.
protect private property is the first step.stop the drives on your land.conserve what you bought and what is on it. stand and be counted well actually tell them to look down the barrel.conservative is to look out for one another that are willing to fight for what is our heritage,conservative is the intelligence to replace a tree when one is taken and conservative is plant crops so the deer don't feed on your new trees.conservative is keep what is right in what you believe in.
I hunted hard on private property,but it got slaughtered on the last 2 days. the owner wasn't around but when it comes to those who think they own it.well you got a surprise comming to you.welcome to be conservative.and my post on another about sounds like a war zone.well sometime its not we shall go quietly into the night.but a whisper of your time is done.
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