Mr Pirk got me thinking.

Charlie P · 12-09-2005, 09:08 AM

After reading his insurgent thread I started thinking about how one side is protrayed as the Good guy while the other side is the bad guy.

Let's look at the Israel and Palestinian conflict.

Recently the Israeli's used an attack,think it was a missle to take out a "leader" of hamas. Their a bunch of good guys even though they wounded civilians and children. Many of their attacks have killed children. They are called Collateral damage.

The Palestinians send some one to blow up a bus in Israel, and they kill children they are bad guys.

Even if they kill some soldiers, let me remind you that every abled bodied man and women is a member of the Israel's armed forces ,except for Hassidics.

So if the Palestinian bomber kills 28 men and women(soldiers) and a child they are Terrosists. The children of Israel are not Collateral damage,why?

Knightia · 12-09-2005, 09:36 AM

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So if the Palestinian bomber kills 28 men and women(soldiers) and a child they are Terrosists. The children of Israel are not Collateral damage,why?

Because they go after the unarmed& innocent women& children the bus& school bombers .

The jews dosnt respond in kind they dont go blow up a a few buses the first ones they can findor a few schools - but they dont - they go after the terriosts leaders with missles instead.

I dosnt see it the same at all-

Polentialy many civiliansare terroist& guilty of being the terriosts- but you should attempt to kill those who are guilty of trying to kill you if possible - not the bistander?

Things get sticky like when hitler bombed citys in ww2& they respond in kind.

There are better ways to do things now i think.( the enemy really has no border now)

But why didnt we kill the empior of ***an first before nuking im.

Least drop it on onehis pallaces first(him in it).

go for the leaders...

underdog · 12-09-2005, 09:37 AM

I think you are mixing apples n oranges to try to compare the Iraq situation to the Palestine/Israel conflict. They are different political situations.

The Palestinians routinely target civilians just because they are Jews. Additionally Muslim communities and governments are filled with hatred for Jews.

In my opinion, Israel, surrounded and outnumbered 20 to 1 does what it has to do to protect its citizens.

Charlie P · 12-09-2005, 09:44 AM

Knighta, Women are in the Isreali army doesn't matter if they are in uniform every citizen is a member of their armed forces.

Children are a different story. Why are the palestinian childrens deaths reported as collateral damage,when they know they are going to kill innocent people with their missles.

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they go after the terriosts leaders with missles instead.

On crowded streets in the middle of the day. The palestinians don't have high tech weapons they use what they have.

The Isreali's don't worry about killing bystanders.

It matters who is telling the story.

UD, I don't read your posts sorry. I know it's you because your the only one I have on ignore.

Knightia · 12-09-2005, 09:54 AM

When we( the us)bombed mo mar kaddafi in libia - we missed the target was him - he got the message i think

Well they really should idealy not shoot into the miidle of the street like that but find out where they live& take out the house while there sleeping( more humain& less bistanders& damages)

I think missles can be a ideal way to deal with some of these terriosts leaders& the best one at the moment so far.

burniegoeasily · 12-09-2005, 10:23 AM

The whole purpose of the Palestinians is to eradicate the Jews and rebuild Palestine.

One thought here, when has there ever been a Palestine?

mr-pirk · 12-09-2005, 10:31 AM

Charlie P " The Isreali's don't worry about killing bystanders ".

I would really be surprised if that were equaly true for Israel as it is for the PLO terrorist.

Thanks
Mr-Pirk

North Texan · 12-09-2005, 12:19 PM

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Mr Pirk got me thinking.

Mr. Pirk, quit that!

DougMD · 12-09-2005, 01:08 PM

There isa huge difference in targeting civilians, children included, and targeting those who have already murdered innocent civilians, children included.

Charlie P · 12-09-2005, 02:46 PM

So it would be all right if they targeted Sharon then . He made sure people stayed in their houses while he had troops bull doze them.

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One thought here, when has there ever been a Palestine?

What was this country called before it was named?

Doug, i see dead kids with either example, kids that targeted no one. One is called collateral damage the others are called victims of terroism.One is killed with a high tech missle the other with a low tech bomb.