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Old 11-29-2005, 10:30 AM   #1
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Underdog posted this at it got me to thinking.

George W. Bush at Ft. Bragg 6/28/05:


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Our mission in Iraq is clear. We're hunting down the terrorists. We're helping Iraqis build a free nation that is an ally in the war on terror. We're advancing freedom in the broader Middle East. We are removing a source of violence and instability, and laying the foundation of peace for our children and our grandchildren.


The work in Iraq is difficult and it is dangerous. Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying, and the suffering is real. Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country.[/blockquote]
We're hunting down Terroists? Or are we making them?

We're helping Iraqis build a free nation? Or are we helping to set up another fundamentalist Muslim nation?

Will it really be our ally on a war on Terror. We thoiught Bin Laden was going to be an alley when we trained him and the future al quida.

Are we really removing a source of violence and instability or are we just installing a future source of violence and instabilty.


Is what we're doing in Iraq vital to the future of security of our Country?

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Old 11-29-2005, 10:48 AM   #2
 
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Why do you ask questions when your mind is made up?
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:57 AM   #3
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I'm interested in seeing what others think. Others, other then you that is.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:05 AM   #4
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How many of thses "terroists" planned on coming to the USA and causing a problem? Seriously most of these "terroists" were not active in any Terro org, before we entered Iraq. Never thought about raising a finger againt us.Al Quida didn't like Hussein because he wasn't a fundamentalist.


Idon't think the people of Iraq will every really be free. They will eventually install a Islamic Fundamentalist goverment,and then they will in no way be an ally to this country.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:11 AM   #5
 
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If you really have an interest in this topic, you ought to catch the President's speech on it tomorrow.

Or you could read what Dem. Joe Liberman said after arriving back from his trip to Iraq last week.

"We do have a strategy," he said. "We do have a plan. I saw a strategy that's being implemented."

Indulge me one more question, Charlie. Would you see a Bush failure in Iraq in the national interest?
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:18 AM   #6
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If you really have an interest in this topic, you ought to catch the President's speech on it tomorrow
Has he come up with a new reason why we are there?????



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Or you could read what Dem. Joe Liberman said after arriving back from his trip to Iraq last week.
Already did.

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We do have a strategy," he said. "We do have a plan. I saw a strategy that's being implemented."
Did I say we didn't have a strategy NO! I said we changed the reasons for going there and then asked some questions.

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Indulge me one more question,
Why should I ? You haven't answered any of mine.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:52 AM   #7
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I thought you were going to say Mr. phelps and then do a spoof on Mission Impossible. I hope I haven't given you any ideas.[8D]
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:32 PM   #8
 
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The key to all this just takes a little thinking.
Yes we are doing all those things Bush mentions and we are doing one other thing.
We are fighting the War there not here.
We are killing these radicals on foreign soil. They, radicals, terrorist whatever you want to call them, are flocking there to fight our All-Volunteer Armed Forces.

We are burning up their resources; resources that could be spend here, human and monetary resources. They could be here flying more planes into our buildings, blowing up malls, car bombs in our street. No, none of the 19 came from here but if they were alive today they would be flocking to Iraq just as the foreign fighters are doing now to fight with our Soldiers and try to stop whatever form of freedom is growing there, in the Middle East, with our help.
It is easy to sit back and say how ugly war is and how terrible it is that good Americans are dying there and how costly it is to the taxpayers. That is something even a fifth graders could tell you. But suck it up and think about it and your own question will be answered. It is the kind of thinking that produces these threads that forced a successful military to withdraw from Vietnam. Political pressure from the short sighted. Look what our withdrawal from Nam has cost us and the poor souls we left to die because of political pressure.
Go back and learn a little American history. Learn who was first a hero in the Revolutionary War then who became a traitor. Learn how many Loyalist there were and how long the war took from beginning to end. What in the end happened to the Loyalist.
The terrorist who flock there would have become terrorist regardless of where we would have fought the fight. A smart man picks the arena.
It will take years to win this war and God only knows how long if ever Iraq will be able to stand free and independent.
And after you learn a little American history learn a little bit about the Middle East and its religious culture. Just as we are a Christian Judaic nation build on Christian and Judaic fundamental beliefs they are Muslim nations so structured. None of this will change overnight nor should it, for it would lack a foundation and soon crumble.

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is fine when it comes to campaigns and the election time BS. When it comes to our future and the safety of our Nation I want it in the hands of unbiased clear thinking people who have the intestinal fortitude to stay the course and do what is needed, not what make some wussy feel good.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:26 PM   #9
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From what I've read most of the people we are fighting are not from other countries.This is from three different sources






Last Update: Monday, March 28, 2005. 7:21am (AEST)Foreign fighters entering Iraq in recent months make up a growing percentage of insurgents battling US troops and the country's fledgling security force, according to a senior US military commander.[/align]
In an interview with CNN in Mosul, General John Abizaid - the commander of US Central Command which covers Iraq - said that while most insurgents appear to be Iraqis, "the percentage of foreign fighters over the past several months seems to have increased".

As many as 3,000 foreigners are fighting American and coalition forces in Iraq, a US military analyst reported yesterday, citing a study drawing on Saudi and other regional intelligence reports

Suspected foreign fighters account for less than 2% of the 5,700 captives being held as security threats in Iraq, a strong indication that Iraqis are largely responsible for the stubborn insurgency.[/align]Since last August, coalition forces have detained 17,700 people in Iraq who were considered to be enemy fighters or security risks, and about 400 were foreign nationals, according to figures supplied last week by the U.S. military command handling detention operations in Iraq. Most of those detainees were freed after a review board found they didn't pose significant threats. About 5,700 remain in custody, 90 of them non-Iraqis.

So tell me again how foreign fighters are flocking there.

You really think all of these people were planning on coming here to fight?

You calling me a wussy?? lol.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:29 PM   #10
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The key to all this just takes a little thinking.

You sure your up to it?


Nice try at insults,loggy.

"It is the kind of thinking that produces these threads that forced a successful military to withdraw from Vietnam" There was a war worth fighting. [:'(]Sorry all of Vietnam wasn't worth one of the Americans we sent there. That is in no way an insult to any of them.They fought and died bravely,but for what? Vietnam?


Too bad your feeble attempts at insulting me are backed up by facts.
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