ford just screwed firestone

s. il. hntr · 10-12-2005, 05:30 PM

Its official. The Ford/Firestone court battle is now over, with Firestone paying $240 million. I still can't believe this.

Firestone got screwed royally.

Oh yeah. Some good but lengthy reading. http://www.citizen.org/documents/rootcause.pdf

North Texan · 10-12-2005, 06:16 PM

Or more like Firestone screwed Fordand this is what happenswhen their left paying corporatechild support.

underdog · 10-12-2005, 08:07 PM

GM used the same tires and experienced no problems. What does that say? The fact that both Ford and Firestone hid the problem from the public while people died ought to cost them both a bundle.

Briman · 10-12-2005, 09:03 PM

Poorly designed and dangerous vehicles and shoddily engineered tires makes the consumer the loser in this instance and the trial lawyers the big winners.

uncle matt · 10-12-2005, 10:08 PM

Here here, I second Mr. Briman. Very well put.

cardeer · 10-13-2005, 01:44 AM

abortion ?

CalHunter · 10-13-2005, 03:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Briman

Poorly designed and dangerous vehicles and shoddily engineered tires makes the consumer the loser in this instance and the trial lawyers the big winners.

Lawyers always win and everybody else gets screwed.

Coastie · 10-13-2005, 03:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: underdog

GM used the same tires and experienced no problems. What does that say? The fact that both Ford and Firestone hid the problem from the public while people died ought to cost them both a bundle.

To me it says that the GM vehicle used tires that were appropriate for that particular GM vehicle either on the advice of Bridgestone/Firestone or at the insistance of GM engineers. Ford and Bridgestone/Firestone have paid and continue to pay for their mistakes. A court has decided that the tire company either misrepresented its product to Ford or provided a product other than what they presented it to be. Without wading through a pile of court documents to discover the reasoning for the decision nobody will ever understand why the decision was made in this way.

s. il. hntr · 10-13-2005, 11:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: underdog

GM used the same tires and experienced no problems. What does that say?

That says that the first generation of Ford Explorers had too narrow a wheel baseand the only way Ford could get the thing to pass government roll over tests was to DEFLATE the tires to 26 psi, not a good idea with any tire.

When this problem first came to light, Firestone sat on its ass while Ford slammed them. Why? To try and save a near 100 year relationship. In the end Firestone got screwed. Now they can't give a Firestone tire away and arenot doing very well with Bridgestone either.Hindsite is always 20/20 though. Looking back Firestone should have blasted back at Ford about the wheel base of the first gen. Explorers. But no they did the right thing and wanted to analyze the problem(s) and find a solution which they were doing untill they realized Ford was dumping the whole problem on them.

s. il. hntr · 10-13-2005, 11:41 AM

Oh yeah.P.S.Didanyone ever see any pics of some of these vehicles that rolled? I guess soccer moms tires never have to be replaced no matter how worn they are