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Old 09-09-2005, 11:24 AM   #1
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I just heard on ABC News radio that Michael Brown (FEMA Director) has been removed from managing the Katrina disaster in NO. Has anybody heard more or have any links with further details? I've enclosed the first part of the article below as well as ABC's link. I also noted that Brown was asked to resign from his previous director's job at the Arabian Horse association. Hmmmmm.....

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FEMA Director to Be Out Soon, Sources Say Under Scrutiny, Mike Brown to Leave Post Sep. 9, 2005 - Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown, under criticism due to his management of Hurricane Katrina as well as reported discrepancies on his resume, is expected to be out as head of the agency very soon, informed sources have told ABC News. Brown had virtually no experience with emergency management when he was appointed to the position by President Bush two years ago. Brown was a friend of Joseph Allbaugh, a former Bush campaign manager who directed FEMA from March 2001 to March 2003. Brown was the deputy chief of FEMA in 2001 and moved up when Allbaugh left. Before becoming part of the agency, Brown was a top official of an Arabian Horse Association. The secretary of that association says it asked him to resign in 2001.
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Another example of the good old boy network alive and well. The replacement was to keepsome of the heat off the big guy. Spin city if you ask me.
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I just heard on ABC News radio that Michael Brown (FEMA Director) has been removed from managing the Katrina disaster in NO. Has anybody heard more or have any links with further details? I've enclosed the first part of the article below as well as ABC's link. I also noted that Brown was asked to resign from his previous director's job at the Arabian Horse association. Hmmmmm.....

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FEMA Director to Be Out Soon, Sources Say Under Scrutiny, Mike Brown to Leave Post Sep. 9, 2005 - Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown, under criticism due to his management of Hurricane Katrina as well as reported discrepancies on his resume, is expected to be out as head of the agency very soon, informed sources have told ABC News. Brown had virtually no experience with emergency management when he was appointed to the position by President Bush two years ago. Brown was a friend of Joseph Allbaugh, a former Bush campaign manager who directed FEMA from March 2001 to March 2003. Brown was the deputy chief of FEMA in 2001 and moved up when Allbaugh left. Before becoming part of the agency, Brown was a top official of an Arabian Horse Association. The secretary of that association says it asked him to resign in 2001.
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Brownprobably couldn't deal with all the horsechit.
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The latest spin is he was planning on leaving FEMA at the end of November anyway. Convenient bull****.
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:32 AM   #6
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Maybe he should have stepped down for following the rules without doing what was needed regardless of whether he violated protocol. But does the mainstream media who criticizes him acknowledge that Blanco didn't give FEMA permission to take over? FEMA has no authority to go in unless requested by the governor, who in this case not only didn't grant permission to FEMA, but blocked the Red Cross and Salvation Army from taking supplies to the victims of Katrina. HMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Doug MD,

That sir, is quite frankly, a load of BS. Governor Blanco sent a letter to Bush on AUGUST 27th, a full day BEFORE Katrina hit, requesting to be declared in a state of emergency and to have FEMA resources sent.I have posted the press release of the actual letter from the FEMA site and the Louisianna government site.
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That's not what I'm hearing. I heard she did NOT grant FEMA permission to take over. And I heard it several times on various news stations by several different people. Whatever the TRUTH, theyneed to get to the bottom of this and FIRE those responsible for not getting people out of there and not helping those in need. Do the bipartisan investigation and let heads roll...

Blanco's Insurrection - It's time to act!
For days now, Major Garrett of Fox News has been reporting that it was the STATE OF LOUISIANA that refused to allow food and water from the Red Cross THAT WAS READY TO BE DELIVERED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE HURRICANES PASSAGE to the throngs who congregated there to await evactuation.
[blockquote]HUME: Standing by, ready. Why didn"™t FEMA send the Red Cross into New Orleans when we had all of those people there on that bridge overpass and elsewhere?
GARRETT: At the Superdome (search), at the convention center...
HUME: Lack of water, right. Why not?
GARRETT: First of all, no jurisdiction. FEMA works with the Red Cross, the Salvation Army, and other organizations, but it has no direct control to order them to go one place or the other.
Secondarily, the Red Cross was ready. I just got off the phone with one of their officials. They had a vanguard, Brit, of trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go, where? To the Superdome and the convention center.
Why weren"™t they there? The Louisiana Department of Homeland Security told them they could not go.
HUME: Now, this is the Louisiana "” this isn"™t the Louisiana branch of the federal Homeland Security? This is...
GARRETT: The state"™s own agency devoted to the state"™s homeland security. They told them, "You cannot go there."
Why? The Red Cross tells me that state agency in Louisiana said, "Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more to come to the Superdome or the convention center. We want to get them out."
So at the same time local officials were screaming, "Where is the food? Where is the water?" The Red Cross was standing by ready. The Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said, "You can"™t go."[/blockquote]


Now I know that Moonbats out there will holla "How can you trust Faux News, they're on the Bushco payroll!!!"

How bout I just link to the RED CROSS THEMSELVES:
[blockquote]The state Homeland Security Department had requested--and continues to request--that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans following the hurricane. Our presence would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city. [Emphasis, mine][/blockquote]
The irony here is just tragic. But wait, it gets better. Beyond Blanco's refusal to allow the Red Cross to provide food and water, we have the evacuation issue.
SO. . .The State of Louisiana (read Governor Blanco) wanted people to leave the city. The mayor and governor jointly ordered an evacuation after being urged to by President Bush, so the wanted to get people out and had the buses to get people out, and didn't want the Red Cross to deliver food and water to those at the Dome and Convention center because they wanted to get the people out.
Do you get it yet, the City and State say they wanted to get people out. YET!!!! The buses that were supposed to GET THE PEOPLE OUT were left standing, unused. Now lets add some insult to injury, more than 24 hours after the storm passes, the 17th street levee breaks, but Nagin and Blanco STILL DON'T USE THE BUSES and eventually they are flooded. Now we've got a HUGE mess on our hands and people are trapped.
So now it's up to the FEDS to get the people out, and the Governor REFUSES to allow the FEDS to take over and GET THE PEOPLE OUT. So people suffer and the entire evacuation effort falls into chaos.
FINALLY, Blanco gives permission and the FEDS roll in and pull people out of the dome and the convention center.
But wait, it gets better.
Now we have a toxic soup in most of New Orleans due to the flooding. The water is so toxic that in some areas, simply getting the water on your skin can lead to death, in others, exposure will cause chemical burns to exposed skin.
The mayor has now ordered a FORCED evacuation citing public health concerns (that's good epidemiology folks, anyone who stays stands a good chance of becomeing a vector for some of the worlds most deadliest diseases), BUT GOVERNOR BLANCO REFUSES TO AUTHORIZE THE EVACUATION!!!! (At the time of this writing she has yet to authorize it.)
[blockquote]Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she was the only person who could call for such action as the National Guard reports to her. Blanco said she did not want to "put more grief on people" by ordering them to leave, noting that some may have everything they need.[/blockquote]
***I'm sorry Governor, but NO ONE, short of those with specific training to work in biologically and chemically hazardous environments has "everything they need" to ensure their safety in the toxic soup that is New Orleans, and NO ONE with said training would choose to remain LIVING in said toxic soup.***
Let's recap a moment, the Governor wanted people out, but REFUSED FOR DAYS to allow the feds to get people out, while also refusing them food and water. All the while Gov. Blanco was screaming that she needed help to get the people out, she was preventing the federal government from getting them out. Now, when the situation is FAR MORE DIRE, and Gov. Blanco is refusing to allow the National Guard under HER CONTROL to take people out of the city by force if need be.
Keep in mind that staying in New Orleans presents a VERY REAL HEALTH RISK, not only to those who stay, but anyone that they may come in contact with in the future.
I'm starting to agree with the moonbats now. Not on who's to blame, but rather that George Bush needs to push Gov. Blanco aside and disregard the authority of the state.
I'm not advocating that Bush violate "posse comitatus", not at all. I will always support the authority of the State government until such time as that authority works directly against the Constitution or threatens the life of U.S. citizens. What I am now advocating, in light of Governor Blanco's blatant disregard for the safety and security of the citizens of New Orleans, is that Bush invoke the powers of the Insurrection Act to invalidate Gov. Blanco's authority in the State of Louisiana.
It's quite obvious that Blanco is working DIRECTLY AGAINST THE INTERESTS AND NEEDS OF HER CITIZENS. It's evident that Blanco is incompetant, negligent, directly responsible for the death of Louisiana citizens and directly endangering the lives of citizens still remaining in New Orleans.
U.S. CODE, TITLE 10, SUBTITLE A, PART I, CHAPTER 15, § 333:
[blockquote]The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it"”
(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. [/blockquote]

I'm not a lawyer, but I knew about the Insurrection Act and googled the text. Until now, I don't think there has been sufficient evidence to invoke it's provisions. However, it's now clear to me that Governor Blanco is violating and has violated both of the code's cited provisions. Those who remain are certainly being denied the protection of the Federal Government with regard to the toxic soup that surrounds them, AND Gov. Blanco certainly appears to be obstructing the evacuation of citizens from the disaster zone.
While I would NEVER support a violation of "posse comitatus", things are getting further and further out of hand due to Governor Blanco's actions. It's time she be taken out of the equasion by using the powers contained in the Insurrection Act.
People need to realize that those attempting to remain in New Orleans pose a significant epidemiological risk not only to themselves, but to anyone who comes in contact with infected persons. Through her stonewalling, obstruction and incompetance, Blanco is putting hundreds, if not thousands of lives at risk.
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Wow Doug, I'm still thinking over all of that. Excellent post and provocative too.
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Doug,

Let me explain to you how this works. FEMA usually comes in along with the National Guard. The governor takes control and directs FEMA and the National Guard.

Enter Bush and his massive ego. Bush wanted Brownie (akatheHorse Whisperer) to call the shots. His administration argued viciously with Blanco because Bush wanted control. This is NOT how it is done with FEMA or the National Guard.

The only time the federal government gets to call the shots is when ACTIVE military men (i.e. not National Guard) are called in. The governor must conceed power to the Federal Government for this to happen. Another example of Bush's conservatative views (i.e. state's rights) being thrown aside by his massive, chemically-enhanced ego.

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As a side note....you are talking apples and oranges. You went from discussing pre-emergency to post disaster and who gets control. Come one man, stick to one topic. Whatever happens now is mute. Bush dropped the ball because he wanted to be in control.
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