Forced Evacuation - yes or no

badshotbob · 09-07-2005, 08:46 AM

This is getting interesting. Mayor orders police to evacuate by force if necessary. The military is saying, no, we won't do that.

These people will more than likely die - some 10,000 or so still left and refusing to leave. Is it government's responsibility to collect them and force them out? Or should they be left for dead seeing as they are at their own property. Where is the line?

burniegoeasily · 09-07-2005, 08:59 AM

I dont think it is possible. Im not sure, but even under marshall law you can not force someone to leave their home. It seems like it would be common scence to leave, but I can understand why some dont want to leave. I dont know if I could pack up and leave my dogs and cat.

My issue will be with those who do not leave. If they die, their family has no one to blame. So when the law suits start, we will all have a reason to gripe.

kevin1 · 09-07-2005, 09:45 AM

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I dont think it is possible.Â* Im not sure, but even under marshall law you can not force someone to leave their home. It seems like it would be common scence to leave, but I can understand why some dont want to leave.Â*

Under martial law you can be legally shot in the street if deemed necessary such as looters , squatters who refuse to move , etc. , martial law is therefore unlikely to be declared since for now the local civil authorities have direct jurisdiction . If the mayor throws in the towel then martial law is a distinct possibility . If it does come to pass then the squatters will be forcibly removed and relocated .

Tazman · 09-07-2005, 09:47 AM

In one way I am a supporter of forced evacuations, but on the other hand I feel that Constitutionly as long as an individual is not breaking a law and is on thier own property that the Government should not be able to force them to do so. However if one refuse to leave the Government should be totally absolved of any responsibilty for them.

Champlain Islander · 09-07-2005, 09:58 AM

Problem is that the water and silt that will remain is contaminated with all sorts of things that will sicken or kill someone. Many of those that stay will certainly develop cancer and die due to the contamination. Guess who pays for their care. They need to be removed now. What happenedto Love Canal people? Most were bought out by New York State. I wonder how it will play in NOLA?

etothepii · 09-07-2005, 10:10 AM

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Or should they be left for dead seeing as they are at their own property. Where is the line?

The mayor can just say that the property will be better off sold to developers and kick the folks out. The supreme court has already backed that one up![:@]

ewolf · 09-07-2005, 10:36 AM

I think if you are still in your residence in N.O. I think you should be shot for being stupid (Unless you are unable to leave).

09-07-2005, 10:43 AM

Nope. Alot of these people are on solid ground with no flooding. They say they have food for a month and a generator. Leave em be.Hey, if you got water all the way around, no supplies, and living off of looting, no generator, and we have to come in and save your butt, then yea, drag em out.

Here's my options for the guys on dry ground. Lets see, go to bed at night in my own bed, work tomorrow cleaning up mytrees in myyard,basically take care of myself, or be put in a big dome with thousands of other people, herded like animals, no privacy, anything you got probably stolen while your the restroom or shower room, anxiety about my house or even if I have a house. Wow, thats an easy one for me.

Here's what I don't understand. I have been thru simular crisis, when the whole tug valley (KY and souther WV)was flooded out in 77 and 84. First off the national guard didn't show up for over a week. We had to look towards neighbors for help. We lived with people for 3 months while our house was repaired. We wasn't trucked out hundreds of miles away, any able bodied man or women was helping with the recovery side by side with Hudd, red cross, whoever. They say they need volunteers, whats wrong with the people of NO??????????????

Knightia · 09-07-2005, 10:43 AM

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These people will more than likely die - some 10,000 or so still left and refusing to leave. Is it government's responsibility to collect them and force them out? Or should they be left for dead seeing as they are at their own property. Where is the line?

I dont understand -Why would they die now?Food ,water, medical care is avalable -if they leave or not.Contaminations? Those are long term- possibilities only right?I lived near love canal & other places like it in my earlyier life- The whole area is questionable- lakes erie,ontario,& the nigara river- but they cant& wouldnt close down Buffalo, nigara falls etc.

Seems like shutting the barndoor after the horse is out already. As is bringing in those large hospital ships& big aircraft carriers still to come - why now?a show? are they needed at all?
Drop many bigbombs on the city after they get im all out?

Knightia · 09-07-2005, 10:51 AM

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They say they need volunteers, whats wrong with the people of NO??????????????

I dont see why not- the ones who are able.
If no one was around thats what they would have to do right- help themselfs as best as they can.