To Ethanol? The fuel that was made from corn. At one time it was considered too expensive but at these fuel prices I would buy it just to spite the oil companies.
To the hydrogen engine? I think I remember the rights bought by some oil company. Anyone here know the truth?
Man, is it me or is the political forum become an afterthought since fngtardman and stealthydata are gone?
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To Ethanol? The fuel that was made from corn. At one time it was considered too expensive but at these fuel prices I would buy it just to spite the oil companies.
I read something recently about the fate of ethanol , basically put they stated that is is still more expensive to use ethanol than gasoline because it contains half of the energy contained in gas .They said what to expect from a car usinmg ethanol as fuel , it got half the mileage in tests . Supposedly , it also costs more to produce and vehicles using it have to be modified .
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To the hydrogen engine? I think I remember the rights bought by some oil company. Anyone here know the truth?
A car would have to be specially converted to use hydrogen as a fuel , the conversion cost $3-4,000 in the 70s , it would run closer to $20,000 now . You wouldn't save enough in gas costs to offset that .
[quote]Man, is it me or is the political forum become an afterthought since fngtardman and stealthydata are gone?[quote]
I do what I can , dude ...
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Man, is it me or is the political forum become an afterthought since fngtardman and stealthydata are gone?
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To Ethanol? The fuel that was made from corn. At one time it was considered too expensive but at these fuel prices I would buy it just to spite the oil companies.
To the hydrogen engine? I think I remember the rights bought by some oil company. Anyone here know the truth?
Man, is it me or is the political forum become an afterthought since fngtardman and stealthydata are gone?
I've been gone for about 3 weeks but have noticed the same thing upon logging in. It seems like many of the regulars are not posting for whatever various reasons they may have.
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The problem with hydrogen right now is that it is derived from oil currently. So you still need oil. I've heard that the prices will avg. over $3 soon. There is a guy in CA who added batteries to his hybrid Prius and now gets over 240mpg, no lie. The extra batteries were about $3k, but in the long run it would pay for itself.
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We are going down the tubes from an energy standpoint. Too much reliance on big oil, bad Mid East and ignoring alternate forms of energy production such as wind farms. Ever wonder why with all the technology that Detroit has at its disposal we can't get better mileage. We can put a man on the moon but can't figure out a way to get more than 20 mpg on most full sized pickup trucks. I bet there are some rich inventors/ scientistsout there who had their ideas bought out by the same oil companies who have us over the barrel.
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Ethanol can be made from corn or any other fermentable product (wheat, fruits, sugar cane, etc). It contains less available energy than gasoline or diesel, and cannot reasonably be expected to replace fossil fuels 100%. It can be used to stretch fossil fuel supplies when used with more effiicient engines.
I'm not sure that we could grow enough grains & other fermantable crops to replace all the gas we burn.
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The problem with hydrogen right now is that it is derived from oil currently.Â* So you still need oil.Â* I've heard that the prices will avg. over $3 soon.Â* There is a guy in CA who added batteries to his hybrid Prius and now gets over 240mpg, no lie.Â* The extra batteries were about $3k, but in the long run it would pay for itself.
I read an article in Popular Science a number of years ago about an outfit in Atlanta that converted cars to burn a hydrogen/oxygen mix by using an electroysis system located in the trunk that used ordinary water as the fuel . The system cracked the water molecules into the two component gasses and then combined them at the intake . The conversion at that time(70s) cost around $3-4,000 and produced only pure water as a combustion by product . The only downside I could see was that you no longer had trunk space .
Gee , I wonder what happened to that shop ?
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Hydrogen fuel cells will likely be in our future. The technology is pretty much there, biggest issue is the distribution of hydrogen. Right now there are probably five places in Texas where you could fill a hydrogen fueled vehicle.
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