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Old 08-11-2005, 09:58 PM   #1
 
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GOP Pays Legal Bills in Vote-Thwart Case





By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 29 minutes ago[/i]

[/align][/align]WASHINGTON - The Republican Party says it still has a zero-tolerance policy for tampering with voters even as it pays the legal bills for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to thwart Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.

James Tobin, the president's 2004 campaign chairman for New England, is charged in New Hampshire federal court with four felonies accusing him of conspiring with a state GOP official and a GOP consultant in Virginia to jam Democratic and labor union get-out-the-vote phone banks in November 2002.[/align]The
Republican National Committee already has spent more than $722,000 to provide Tobin, who has pleaded innocent, a team of lawyers from the high-powered Washington law firm of Williams & Connolly.

Republican Party officials said they don't ordinarily discuss specifics of their legal work, but confirmed to The Associated Press they had agreed to underwrite Tobin's defense because he was a longtime supporter and that he assured them he had committed no crimes.
"Jim is a longtime friend who has served as both an employee and an independent contractor for the RNC," a spokeswoman for the RNC, Tracey Schmitt, said Wednesday. "This support is based on his assurance and our belief that Jim has not engaged in any wrongdoing."
A telephone firm was paid to make repeated hang-up phone calls to overwhelm the phone banks in New Hampshire and prevent them from getting Democratic voters to the polls on Election Day 2002, prosecutors allege. Republican John Sununu won a close race that day to be New Hampshire's newest senator.
At the time, Tobin was the RNC's New England regional director, before moving to
President Bush' name=c1> SEARCHNews | News Photos | Images | Web' name=c3> President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign.
A top New Hampshire Party official and a GOP consultant already have pleaded guilty and cooperated with prosecutors. Tobin's indictment accuses him of specifically calling the GOP consultant to get a telephone firm to help in the scheme.
"The object of the conspiracy was to deprive inhabitants of New Hampshire and more particularly qualified voters ... of their federally secured right to vote," states the latest indictment issued by a federal grand jury on May 18.
The Republican Party has repeatedly and pointedly disavowed any tactics aimed at keeping citizens from voting since allegations of voter suppression surfaced during the Florida recount in 2000 that tipped the presidential race to Bush.
Earlier this week, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, the former White House political director, reiterated a "zero-tolerance policy" for any GOP official caught trying to block legitimate votes.
"The position of the Republican National Committee is simple: We will not tolerate fraud; we will not tolerate intimidation; we will not tolerate suppression. No employee, associate or any person representing the Republican Party who engages in these kinds of acts will remain in that position," Mehlman wrote Monday to a group that studied voter suppression tactics.
Democratic Party Chairman
Howard Dean' name=c1> SEARCHNews | News Photos | Images | Web' name=c3> Howard Dean on Thursday questioned Mehlman's commitment to the policy. "This is just another example of his say one thing, do another strategy. Ken Mehlman tells crowds his party is against voter fraud and intimidation, while in the backrooms he supports Republican officials who engage in these dirty tricks," Dean said.
Dennis Black and Dane Butswinkas, two Williams & Connolly lawyers for Tobin, did not return calls seeking comment. Brian Tucker, a New Hampshire lawyer on the team, declined comment.
Tobin's lawyers have attacked the prosecution, suggesting evidence was improperly introduced to the grand jury, that their client originally had been promised he wouldn't be indicted and that he was improperly charged under one of the statutes.
Tobin stepped down from his Bush-Cheney post a couple of weeks before the November 2004 election after Democrats suggested he was involved in the phone bank scheme. He was charged a month after the election.
Paul Twomey, a volunteer lawyer for New Hampshire Democrats who are pursuing a separate lawsuit involving the phone scheme, said he was surprised the RNC was willing to pay Tobin's legal bills and that it suggested more people may be involved.
The new development "really raises the questions of who are they protecting, how high does this go and who was in on this," Twomey said.
Federal prosecutors have secured testimony from the two convicted conspirators in the scheme directly implicating Tobin.
Charles McGee, the New Hampshire GOP official who pleaded guilty, told prosecutors he informed Tobin of the plan and asked for Tobin's help in finding a vendor who could make the calls that would flood the phone banks.
Allen Raymond, a former colleague of Tobin who operated a Virginia-based telephone services firm, told prosecutors Tobin called him in October 2002, explained the telephone plan and asked Raymond's company to help McGee implement it.
Raymond's lawyer told the court that Tobin made the request for help in his official capacity as the top RNC official for New England and his client believed the RNC had sanctioned the activity. [/align][/align]
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:15 PM   #2
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Did anyone ever get charged from the Democratic party for slashing the tires of the twenty some odd Republican get out the vote vans? Did anyone get charged in St. Louis when the polls were opened for several HOURS after they had to close because the democrat was losing the race at the time? How about the gun shots into Republican offices? I think we all know who the real demons are when it comes to voting disturbances.
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Doug, I hear what you are saying. Vote Fraud happens on both sides though. To call one party the devil is looking through blinders. Both are equally to blame.

My problem with this is the GOP footing the legal bills. It is gonna happen, and when caught you should be charged, no matter what party you support. Its the only way to discourage them from actions such as you and I mentioned.

But the GOP should disatnce themselves from this, and state that they support a fair, and ethical voting system. Not foot the bill for corruption.
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As I heard it, the reason that the RNC is paying the bills is that they believe that he's innocent.
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Yeah But Bush also stated he believed that he believed Rafiel Palamero was innocent as well, then it turns out the steroid he tested positive for is the kind you inject into your rump. Not an accidental balco cream, or something from a suppliment in pill form or drink form.

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I agree that guilty people should be tried, convicted andpenalizedfor sure, and no party should stand behind anyone guilty of such a crime.
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Doug, I hear what you are saying. Vote Fraud happens on both sides though. To call one party the devil is looking through blinders. Both are equally to blame.

My problem with this is the GOP footing the legal bills. It is gonna happen, and when caught you should be charged, no matter what party you support. Its the only way to discourage them from actions such as you and I mentioned.

But the GOP should disatnce themselves from this, and state that they support a fair, and ethical voting system. Not foot the bill for corruption.
Hey gobbler, welcome back. Haven't seen you on here in a long time. I agree that people should be charged with crimes if an investigation determines a case should go forward for voter fraud or other voting crimes. Prosecuting people who violate voting laws will reduce the amount of voter fraud. There is also a certain logic in distancing one's self from people who are charged with such crimes. Such a measure isn't always practical, however, if you look at recent examples (at least within the last 10 years or so).

For example, regardless of what you think about Bill Clinton (I know you supported him), it would have been odd for the Democratic party not to pay for any of his legal bills or attempt to help him obtain legal representation. I would have thought the Demos were throwing Clinton under the bus if they abandoned him so quickly and didn't afford him the opportunity to at least prove his innocence.

Although I support the concept of investigations, grand juries and court trials, I also support the freedom of individuals and groups to pay for legal representation for people accused of crimes. Our country is founded upon a presumption of being innocent until proven guilty and the GOP footing this guy's legal bills seems to be reasonable in this respect. Now, I would expect the GOP to fire this guy if he is proven guilty and also expect them to publicly reaffirm their opposition to any voter fraud.
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Ya know something, Gobby? You haven't changed. You have tried and convicted this man already--purely because of his political affiliation. However, if you were to condemn the actual cases of voter intimidation proffered by the Democratic Party during the Presidential election (slashing tires of Republican-rented vans in a Detroit suburb, physical violence against Republican workers by various union members, and others), I'd be willing to give you a pass on this one.

Unless that happens (I'm not holding my breath), you're just a Democritic shill.


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Relax GA if gas prices stay high you will soon have the clinton twins silly and billy back in the whitehouse. Until then, take a pill and settle down.
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Thanks for the welcome back!!! Now Muddy and James, I voted for GW this past election, and had informed the board long in advance that I had made up my mind to do so.

I am an independant, not democrat or republican.

I think anyone charges with voter fraud should be tried, and political parties should be exempt from footing the legal bills. When a party pays the bills for someone like this, it gives the appearance that they have something to hide, and a vested interest in seeing that the case is dismissed.

This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, it is a right and wrong issue, and the GOP is wrong in this case.
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