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Old 08-11-2005, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default Clinton Administration's Gorelick Wall & 9/11

It all goes back to Clinton and Reno!!! If they just would have done a decent job, we could have stopped them!!
"Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa. and vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, said Tuesday the men were identified in 1999 by a classified military intelligence unit known as 'Able Danger.' If true, that's an earlier link to al-Qaeda than any previously disclosed intelligence about Atta. Sept. 11 commission co-chairman Lee Hamilton said Tuesday that Weldon's information, which the congressman said came from multiple intelligence sources, warrants a review."

As Rush said, "Now we know what Sandy Burger was doing in the archives!!!!!!!!!"
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:18 AM   #2
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"I want to know if Sandy Burglar's taking documents out of the National Archives has anything to do with this and I want to know why in the world Jamie Gorelick was on that committee instead of being made a witness."
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:41 PM   #3
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Ashcroft had accused, and now it's his accessaries are accusing Jamie Gorelick erected the "wall" between the FBI and the CIA that kept them from sharing intelligence and possibly from doing more to prevent the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. That because FBI feared to touch that wall, they hadn't applied a permission to search suspect Zacarias Moussaoui's computer, so they lost chance to stop 911 attack in advance.
This is a blackmail.
There are two ways for FBI to apply a search warranty from Judge. One is by FISA court.(Foreign Intelligence Spy Act) In which a warranty is in a very low standard and is easy to get. The other way is by criminal law court which is in high standard because Americans are protected by 4th amendment from unreasonable search and arrest.
When Ashcroft and FBI said there is a wall to block sharing information between foreign information and criminal investigation, he is demanding a big police power expanding which makes 4th amendment mean nothing. He then can search and arrest American citizen at his will, only based on suspicion(FISA standard is low) while we should be protected by criminal law from being unreasonable search and arrest. (must based on evidence)
D.O.J. use Moussaoui's case as a reason, said because FBI feared to touch the wall of criminal law so they didn't investigate Moussaoui's computer. It's hypocrite and is a misleading. We don't have to be a professional like A.G. or FBI to know that Moussaoui is a foreigner and fits for FISA. Why FBI hadn't apply FISA(obviously an easy one) but considered domestic criminal law? And why they even didn't apply? It is incompetence, a mistake, or a deliberate negligence? Many informations revealed that government knew 911 attack in advance, it was allowed to happen. Because they are benefit from it.
FBI didn't apply a warrant from FISA, they say because they are afraid to touch that wall. A man caught driving without a license. He said because he was afraid he won't pass the road test so he hadn't apply one. Could a judge justify that reason? As a matter of fact, FISA standard is very low, if FBI had applied one, they for sure would get it. But they hadn't.
What D.O.J. wants is to give FBI more police power to search and arrest people. They want to low the standard of criminal law. That's a blackmail in the name of "war on terrorism".
BTW, there is a deep meaning of "erect the wall of sharing information" . In fact, intelligence share the information already. The reality is they can't use that information to apply a search warrent because it's illegal. The wall prevent they use FISA standard on domestic criminal case.
Theoretically, FBI can't spy a citizen unless they have evidence the man has committed crime. When this "sharing information wall" is broken, now they can search a citizen covertly only on suspicion. Because FISA standard is low.
This is the real purpose of D.O.J.. And it claimed "Patriot Act" gave it such priviledge.
The fact is, under "Patriot Act", Bush and D.O.J. expand their fascist police power. American people are losing the protect from "unreasonable search and arrest" of 4th amendment.
Government and media never tell people about this. They steal the civil liberty in the name of security. You are losing your constitutional right.
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