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Old 07-15-2005, 02:04 PM   #1
 
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Paul Harvey says:

Idon't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.

"But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue.

Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,
I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad,
I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China,
I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended.
It wouldn't bother me one bit.
When in Rome

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument.

What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!

Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating; to pray before we go to sleep.

Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.

God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you,
Well ... just sue me.

The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard... that the vast majority don't care what they want. It is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance; you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your
right. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back ...and we WILL WIN!

God bless us one and all ... especially those who denounce
Him. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all.

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect
our right to pray and worship God.

May 2005 be the year the silent majority is heard
and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

Keep looking up.



It's not just with religion.... it's everything, gun rights, raising your children..... the minority that screams the loudest speks for the majority.

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Wow, that was fast. I guess you can't take all you get in the mail for granted. I've saved that link to my favorites. Thanks davidm, however,which message are you trying to send? That Paul Harvey didn't say it or the body of the text is completely wrong? I read a little of the text on your link and to be honest.........
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Wow, that was fast. I guess you can't take all you get in the mail for granted. I've saved that link to my favorites. Thanks davidm, however,which message are you trying to send? That Paul Harvey didn't say it or the body of the text is completely wrong? I read a little of the text on your link and to be honest.........
just that he didn't write it.

i'm not christian, but i am not bothered if others take a minute to pray.

i can always admire the trees.
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Old 07-16-2005, 12:45 PM   #5
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A christian prayer? From what I've read on the religion board who's a Christian is up for debate.

How about a moment of silence so whomever wants to pray can?

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But what about the atheists?" is another argument.

What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!



Baptized full immersion or sprinkleing of water? Makes a big difference right?

If I were to put in ear plugs or play a walkman, I would be accused of br disrespectful to others beliefs
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A christian prayer? From what I've read on the religion board who's a Christian is up for debate.
And this is where much of the problem lies. A lot of the problems originally regarding prayer in school were caused bythe religiousgroups themselves. The Jews did not want Jesus mentioned in the prayer. The different denominations could not agree on how the prayer was to be said.Much like many disagree now with which version of the Bible is the correct one?

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"And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you they have received their reward. But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
--Matthew 6:5-6 (Jesus speaking to the crowds)
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Old 07-19-2005, 06:50 AM   #7
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MoMoon,
I love your Paul Harvey message. Alot of truth to the message who ever wrote it. Its a sad time when we as a nation can no longer agree on simple prayer.

We've moved to a society that only allows litigaters to decide who,how and where we can so much as utter a prayer - Very Sad Indeed

North Texan; I love the Matthew verse. I printed that one

I think I'll make copies to hand out to some of the bible thumpin Church Goin Hypocrits I know.
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Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.
Neither will praying silently to yourself .

I don't ask anyone to share my beliefs , I think that I deserve the same courtesy . The majority is not always right , that's why we're a republic rather than a democracy .
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:15 AM   #9
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If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,
I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

Or to get blown up,mostly because of religion.


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If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad,
I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.
You mean in the stadium that was used for beheadings instead of Soccer?


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If I went to a ping pong match in China,
I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha
I don't believe you hear any prayers in China.


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Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.
No you can still pray all you want just can't put over the PA system like Kevin saidthis country is a Republic.
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Israel is a religious (Zionist) state.

Saudia Arabia is a reglious nation.

Afghanistan is a religuous nation.

Iran is a religiuos nation.

Ireland wanted to be a relgious nation but could not figure out which religion got to rule the nation.

Somehow, despite the fact that most Americans are Christain (well, that is if you consider Roman Catholics and Orthodox Christian), I think maybe keeping religion out of our politics might be a smart move.
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