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Old 07-06-2005, 01:22 PM   #1
 
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DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT A DIRECT MILITARY ATTACK LIKE THIS (which has happened numerous times before) WILL BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY THIS ADMINISTRATION ???



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There's new information about two Border Patrol agents who were wounded in the line of duty last Thursday.
Both officers were shot in the leg and Eyewitness News 4 has learned that the assailants were wearing black military-style uniforms.
Sources say that investigators found food, water, and supplies. It's believed there were more than two shooters.
Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada says the assailants were dressed in commando-type clothing.
"People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.
Could those armed men have been members of a team of rogue Mexican commandos called the Zetas?
The Zetas are former members of the Mexican Army. They were trained by the U.S. Army at Fort Benning, Georgia to battle against the powerful drug cartels.
Some of those commandos changed sides and are now working with drug smugglers.
Sheriff Estrada says, "It's a possibility. I'm sure the FBI and other agencies are looking at that because of the way the individuals were dressed. Because of the way they were set up, they were protecting a group of individuals for whatever reasons. They were obviously sending a real strong message."
The two agents, who are still hospitalized, were checking out tracks about a mile and a half from the border. They came under fire from shooters using high-powered weapons.
Sheriff Estrada says, 'Now, more than ever, Border Patrol as well as other law enforcement officers have to be vigilant, especially if the men who ambushed the agents last week are members of Zetas. It is very scary. Obviously, they are well trained, well equipped, and they know their mission."
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DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT A DIRECT MILITARY ATTACK LIKE THIS (which has happened numerous times before) WILL BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY THIS ADMINISTRATION ???

This question answers itself . As for the rest of it ...



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Both officers were shot in the leg and Eyewitness News 4 has learned that the assailants were wearing black military-style uniforms.
Commandos , as a rule , don't "shoot you in the leg" , and fashion isn't very high on their list. I was stationed right up the street from the SEAL training command and spoke with a good many of them at the EM clubof the amphib base across the street . Thisalone would have them ROTFLTAO .

Sources say that investigators found food, water, and supplies. It's believed there were more than two shooters.
Common with drug mules and *******s, not soldiers , soldiers aren't stupid enough to leave them in plain sight in a hostile area.

Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada says the assailants were dressed in commando-type clothing. "People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.

Can you say moron ? I can buy all of that crap at Sportsman's Guide! It isn't illegal to buy clothing , and clothes don't make the commando , tactics do .Why , I'll bet that they were packing "assault weapons" too . You can tell those things a mile away because of the way they look , just ask Diane Feistein...

Could those armed men have been members of a team of rogue Mexican commandos called the Zetas? The Zetas are former members of the Mexican Army. They were trained by the U.S. Army at Fort Benning, Georgia to battle against the powerful drug cartels. Some of those commandos changed sides and are now working with drug smugglers.
A Mex switching sides just because of money? Well , that's never happened before ...

Sheriff Estrada says, "It's a possibility. I'm sure the FBI and other agencies are looking at that because of the way the individuals were dressed. Because of the way they were set up, they were protecting a group of individuals for whatever reasons. They were obviously sending a real strong message."
If I were protecting a million dollars worth of coke or meth I'd dress all in black and work at night too . The message that I'd be sending would be "I'm trying not to get caught and spend the rest of my life in prison because I value my continued ability to "drop a deuce" and still have to push to do it."

The two agents, who are still hospitalized, were checking out tracks about a mile and a half from the border. They came under fire from shooters using high-powered weapons.
Hmmm ... Like from scared , desparate drug mules , perhaps ?

Sheriff Estrada says, 'Now, more than ever, Border Patrol as well as other law enforcement officers have to be vigilant, especially if the men who ambushed the agents last week are members of Zetas. It is very scary. Obviously, they are well trained, well equipped, and they know their mission."
Either that or the clumsy bastardos just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar , which happens pretty much every day on the border . BTW , exactly what does the good sheriff know about commandos in the first place ? My guess is nada .

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Old 07-06-2005, 05:03 PM   #3
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WTF!? Hey 'mano, you got some 'splaining to do.
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ROFLMAO!!! Kevin, you nailed it.!
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ROFLMAO!!! Kevin, you nailed it.!
How so? There is plenty of documentation that shows the mexican military itself has crossed the border and taken pot shots at the border patrol in the past... why would this be so outlandish?

Hell, everyone falls for this "terrorist" crap, why would this be so hard to believe?
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ROFLMAO!!!Â* Kevin, you nailed it.!
How so? There is plenty of documentation that shows the mexican military itself has crossed the border and taken pot shots at the border patrol in the past... why would this be so outlandish?

Hell, everyone falls for this "terrorist" crap, why would this be so hard to believe?
Since having their military shoot at our Border Patrol constitutes a direct act of aggression then why aren't we at war with Mexico again ? I don't even recall hearing about these alleged shootings , do you have a link ? You're the one making the claim , back it up . For the record I think it's more likely drug mules than the Mexican Army . Terrorists never entered my mind .
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Two links with a 3 second google search


www.newsmax.com/archives/ articles/2003/12/3/191837.shtml
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15326



For the newsmax link, but the url in google and get cached version

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ROFLMAO!!! Kevin, you nailed it.!
How so? There is plenty of documentation that shows the mexican military itself has crossed the border and taken pot shots at the border patrol in the past... why would this be so outlandish?

Hell, everyone falls for this "terrorist" crap, why would this be so hard to believe?
Tardfarmer, I'm not saying that Mexican army or former Mexican army soldiers have not shot at our Border Patrol before. And when they do, we should have our army track them down whup butt as that is an armed assault upon our borders. However, I absolutely agree with Kevin's assessments of the Sheriff's comments as the Sheriff's comments and deductions are ludicrous and embarrassing. A 5-year-old could offer better logic than that. Based on the article and info I've seen, I think Kevin did nail it in that the people shooting at the Border Patrol do sound like either drug smugglers or people smugglers. Have you ever heard of ANY army where their soldiers are trained to shoot people in the legs? I haven't. Are those camoflauge apparel items you wear while hunting going to make you some super kind of commando? No. a lot of people do wear military style fatigues and it has nothing to do with being a commando. Well, maybe an armchair commando but we're not discussing that sub species.

I could go on but Kevin explained things quite well. That sheriff sounds like a fool and his analysis is extremely faulty. I am soooo glad I don't work for him.
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Here in Texas, we at least have the river...sometimes just a small stream, but except for the border towns (Del Rio, Eagle Pass, Brownsville and EL Paso) it is wild assed country, wityh very few people around. Move into New mexico and Arizona, and it is even more empty country. Folks from the north usually cam't imagine it, but there is no fence or other visual reference to the border in many places. The markers are not all that prominant, andI suspect are very hard to see at night. Border incursions occur on both sides, and unless it can be demonstated that it was not accidental, both countries tend to leave well enough alone. I suspect the shooters were not Mexican Military, but guards for smugglers. Maybe former military, or deserters, but not regular troops.
If you want to see the other side, check out old Charlie Askins writings, and see just how many "Meskins" he killed, on both sides of the border.
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Have you ever heard of ANY army where their soldiers are trained to shoot people in the legs? I haven't.
The US military uses the term "grazing fire" it is directed fire from light or medium machine guns that fires approx. 1 meter above the ground. 1 meter above the ground is right close to shooting guys in the legs. Not to mention Sniper tactics used to draw additional targets into to open.

Now all that being said i dont think that it was maxican army troops either unless they have been coopted by the smuggling cartels.
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