I have a Marlin 336CS 35 Rem. I'm looking to put a scope back on it. I'm leaning towards the VX-II 2-7x28mm Ultralight Scope. The lightweight is a plus, but not the deal breaker. The thing I like most about it is the eye relief. The eye relief is only 3.0 to 3.8 inches. The eye relief on the regular VX-II 2-7x33mm is 3.8 to 4.9 inches. That's a little to much for my rifle. I have to hold my head back (on the stock) just a tad. I think an inch less eye relief (at the high and low settings) would work a lot better.
I know both scopes are VX-II series. Are the VX-II Ultralight Scopes just as durable as the regular VX-II scopes? I guess I'm wondering if they gave anything up durability wise, to make them lighter? I'm not hard on my equipment, but I still want a durable scope. Thanks in advance, NYH!
I know both scopes are VX-II series. Are the VX-II Ultralight Scopes just as durable as the regular VX-II scopes? I guess I'm wondering if they gave anything up durability wise, to make them lighter? I'm not hard on my equipment, but I still want a durable scope. Thanks in advance, NYH!
You give up a lot optically with Leupolds lightweight scopes compared to their regular scopes irregardless of what anyone says. I used to own the 3-9x33 compact they used to make and was not pleased with that at all. I don't think it will be any less sound then the regular vx-II but a 35 rem is not going to ding any quality scope. 2-7x33 is just as good a scope as their 2.5-8x36 there isn't a hairs difference between both of them other then 3mm of lense a 1 piece tube and better w/e adjustments.
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What is the cost of the Leupolds? I bought a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x32mm from CameralandNY for $355 shipped, and I will put it up against any Leupold optically speaking.
I have a Marlin 336CS 35 Rem. I'm looking to put a scope back on it. I'm leaning towards the VX-II 2-7x28mm Ultralight Scope. The lightweight is a plus, but not the deal breaker. The thing I like most about it is the eye relief. The eye relief is only 3.0 to 3.8 inches. The eye relief on the regular VX-II 2-7x33mm is 3.8 to 4.9 inches. That's a little to much for my rifle. I have to hold my head back (on the stock) just a tad. I think an inch less eye relief (at the high and low settings) would work a lot better.
I know both scopes are VX-II series. Are the VX-II Ultralight Scopes just as durable as the regular VX-II scopes? I guess I'm wondering if they gave anything up durability wise, to make them lighter? I'm not hard on my equipment, but I still want a durable scope. Thanks in advance, NYH!
I can tell ya one thing. I have been very hesitate about durability of VX line. I have two VX's. But I have that 2-7x33 VX, and just this year, my slug gun fell 23' from my treestand and hit the ground so hard, it bounced in the air 2' and thru the shell out of the chamber. I was worried about the scope, and it was still zeroed, and gun still shoots 2MOA. I was pleasently surprised. I did a quick calcuation, and that impact was like 2 460weatherby's going off at once.
I also have nikon's and conquests. All are great scopes. But from someone that has the tools to measure optics and knows how, thier is not much difference between them. Zeiss does has slightly different freq responce then leupold and nikon. And I do believe it helps them at twilight. But other than that, no difference.
What is the cost of the Leupolds? I bought a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8x32mm from CameralandNY for $355 shipped, and I will put it up against any Leupold optically speaking.
The VX-II cost $299 and the Ultralight cost $319. I'm not exactly sure how much shipping is. I've ordered from the place in the past and the shipping was reasonable and fast. Nothing against Zeiss, butI'm going to stick with Leupold.[/align]
The VX-II cost $299 and the Ultralight cost $319. I'm not exactly sure how much shipping is. I've ordered from the place in the past and the shipping was reasonable and fast. Nothing against Zeiss, butI'm going to stick with Leupold
I think you answered your own question 2-7x33 .One of thefeatures of Leupold is their compact dimensions especially on something like a lightweight deer rifle. They may be unmatched. The conquest line while having fine optics is still a long tube relativelyheavy scope even their 1.8-5 or 2.5-8. They have to compromise somewhere in order to sell them at the price they do. Look at a Kahles 2-7x36 or a Swarovski 3-9x36 for example if you want better optics and the same compactness as a Leupold.
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"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come."
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Associated Press 11/18/93
"Be thankful that we're not getting all the government we are paying for." Will Rogers
Look at a Kahles 2-7x36 or a Swarovski 3-9x36 for example if you want better optics and the same compactness as a Leupold.
It sounds like New York Hunter has already made up his mind.
I have a Swarovski A series 3-9x36mm, and though it is a fine scope, it is not worth $300 more than a Conquest. The Swarovski is lightweight, but to my eyes, my Conquests are optically just as good.
I have a Swarovski A series 3-9x36mm, and though it is a fine scope, it is not worth $300 more than a Conquest. The Swarovski is lightweight, but to my eyes, my Conquests are optically just as good.
Optically a lot of people would differ with you and I am one of them, they are great optics but not in Swaro/Kahles category. I rank the Kahles ahead of the Swarovski just because of its eyebox. My new KX is the best 3-9x 42 I have ever looked thru. It also has an etched reticle and the my 4-12x50AV has wires. The conquests are right below them and pretty much above everything else sold at its price level or hundreds more.The only Conquests I own are the 3-9x40's. I believe Zeiss missed the mark with the new "compact" Conquests..they are neither compact or light excluding the 4x. Go over to the SWFA forums and there are a lot of Kahles users. I haven't heard one yet complaining about them.
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"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come."
- Joseph Biden
Associated Press 11/18/93
"Be thankful that we're not getting all the government we are paying for." Will Rogers
I have a Swarovski A series 3-9x36mm, and though it is a fine scope, it is not worth $300 more than a Conquest. The Swarovski is lightweight, but to my eyes, my Conquests are optically just as good.
Optically a lot of people would differ with you and I am one of them, they are great optics but not in Swaro/Kahles category.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. If you and others want to pay $300 more for a Swarovski, more power to you. I have Conquests in 2.5-8, 3-9, 4.5-14, and 6.5-20 and really like them all. I have no personal experience with a Kahles, but I have a friend that has a few of them and speaks very highly of them. He ranks them above the Conquest line as well, but until I try one myself, my opinion of the Conquest will remain the same.
If you guys only knew the amount of work and QA it takes to get that extra 2% of quality out of a lense or shape. And the low yeild you get at that level of polishing, and index matching, then you would understand where that 300 dollars come from.
Conquests are like Leupolds, and pick lenses out of the top quality yields, and is a mfg process. Alotof low paid employees at the grinding process, or just buying them fromother grinders. And then they let QA department work out the rest with higher paid people. Swarovski, leica, kahles, and Schmidt and Bender, these guys have professions, doing this and basically hand working the equipement at that point.
Can the quality be seen by human eye? Some people yes. By machine, you bet ya. Average high brow shooters, probably not.
Leupold VX-II 2-7x33mm -vs- VX-II 2-7x28mm Ultralights Scopes?
2-7x33 .One of thefeatures of Leupold is their compact dimensions especially on something like a lightweight deer rifle. They may be unmatched. The conquest line while having fine optics is still a long tube relativelyheavy scope even their 1.8-5 or 2.5-8. They have to compromise somewhere in order to sell them at the price they do. Look at a Kahles 2-7x36 or a Swarovski 3-9x36 for example if you want better optics and the same compactness as a Leupold.
