Went out for supper tonight, and got some bad news that our big shots in albany are'nt doing nothing about a crossbow season ,to much presure from the NYB association. I've got to ask who the hell do you guys think you are, i've been hunting with a bow since 1959 when you people were in diapers or just a dream in your old mans jewels. Who the he--ll are you to tell me and others we can not use croosbows,when we hit a time in our lives that some parts of our bodys do'nt work very good any more.There are others that would like to spend some times in the outdoors, but you people have stopped us cold.You people do not own the woods of New York, i do along with you and others so why are trying stop me and others.Enough were all hunters, lets not beat ourselves to death and PETA win. DISGUSTED,and PIS--ed off. RICH K,
You think thats bad. On the Bowsite a discussion was started as to why crossbows should be excluded from being a legal hunting implement and I guess because they asked for facts the moderator pulled the thread. Some wanted to know why and others not the moderator(he choose to remain silent) said because of censorship. Imagine so called bowhunters pulling a thread for no other reason than "I don't like crossbows so we don't talk about them". Talk about dividing the hunting community.
RWK, you & I have been down this road before, and I know you don't agree with my views, or think much of me. Just becasue I'm not in support of the crossbow during OUR archery seasons. I respect the fact your a hunter, and the fact you've hunted many yrs. with a bow. I respect the fact you have a handicap problem.
But step back in time, and ask yourself how would you have felt when you were very capable of using archery equipment if crossbows were looking to invade the very reasons you enjoyed using a bow to hunt with. You continue to blame NYB, but NYB is only trying to protect ALL archers rights of this state. They simply don't want a superior weapon legalized in the NYS woods during archery seasons. Its really no different then many of our other seasons of this state. Does the NWTF want rifles legalized for turkey season. Would hunters want machine guns legalized during any deer gun season? The fact remains the crossbow is a superior weapon to the bow. Even is some proclaim its similar in range & speed. Its still has the simple advantage of always being cocked and loaded, and shoulder held for better accuracy. You yourself have to realize it doesn't take as much effort to succeed in accurate shooting of the crossbow over archery equipment. I've often wondered why the Crossbow manufacturers insist on legalizing the weapon for archery seasons. Why don't they simply try to get it legalized during muzzleloader seasons or possibly even a separate season. I also wonder why do so many who say they can no longer use archery equipment effectively, feel the crossbow is the ONLY answer to continue hunting in archery season? This state does have a MODIFIED BOW PERMIT, that is much easier to obtain for handicapped persons, and it has a VERY WIDE range of implements allowed to make modifications to your very own archery equipment. It even allows a draw locking device to hold the bow at full draw, the same way the crossbow does. So it would seem to me if a person has such a deep desire to continue hunting during NY's archery seasons they would find the device to allow that for them. I know for a fact there are blind, amputee's, quadraplegics all using archery equipment. NYB's has, and will continue to help handicapped persons find means to use archery equipment. I've told you this before, but you seem so sour towards a group that has done wonders for this states archery that you fail to see the good this organization has done for the archers of NYS.
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The fact is tha NYB has leaders that are on an anti-crossbow campaign. If they polled their membership I bet they would find that most of their members support crossbows for handicapped hunters.
We're not talking about crossbows for all hunters during archery season, just the truly disabled. Why would NYB want to make it harder for these individuals to hunt? It's just backwards and wrong and the leaders should be ashamed.
JBC you can only be presuming what you wrote, and do not know. NYB has gained its membership in a large part from its anti crossbow efforts. Studies have been conducted in NYS to show the majority of hunters are against the legalization of the crossbow. NYB has a anti crossbow committee, and its members write countless letters to government officials opposing Introduced bills for legalizing the crossbow. NYB is by far not against any handicapped person continuing to hunt during archery seasons. They have made huge efforts to help any asking handicapped person in their archery efforts. They have a special committee called The Physically Challenged that was developed in its early yrs, well before the Anti cross bow committee was ever needed. www.newyorkbowhunters.com click WELCOME, then on the disabled resources section on the left of page
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RWK i agree with you totally. i have been bow hunting since 1967 and i remember when the compound move started. at that time we did not want the compound in the archery season because it is a superior weapon vs our straight and recurves. but it some how it made it though. for some reason people think that if you enter the woods with a crossbow you are sure to harvest a deer. how simple minded is this. the crossbow is no worst the compound we just need more crossbow hunters to make the differance. the answers about rifles in turkey season and machineguns in deer season are for safety reasons. it has nothing to do with the game harvest. i have a recurve , i also have a compound and i own a crossbow. so i know what it takes to shot each one. anyone that thinks a compound is not superior weapon over a straight or recurve bow does not have any idea what he is talking about.
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You must realize that the major opposition in NY to crossbows has little to do with disabled or senior access to them. It is the concern that once allowed, they would become a legal implement during archery season for everyone. I'm sure that is the at the root of NYB opposition.
Ohio allows crossbows during archery, and now more crossbow hunters hunt during archery season than bowhunters.
RWK - Since you have been a bowhunter since 1959, I'm sure you must also be shuddering at the thought of your tranquil NY bow season being overrun by large hordes of crossbow toting gun hunters.
I wasn't talking about legalizing crossbows during bowseasons for all. I was talking about the shameful restrictions on crossbow use for truly handicapped that NYB support.
Why does NYB want to make it difficult for handicapped hunters to participate? Custom draw lock solutions are expensive and do the same thing as a crossbow but don't have the dredded "crossbow" label so NYB approves. It makes no sense at all unless you look under the covers and find that the leadership of NYB have an anti-crossbow vendetta. No crossbows for anyone. Period. Go ahead, poll the membership.
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Look guys, I have no problem whatsoever with debating the topic of crossbows on this Forum. I let all of those threads run their course for weeks on end now, and the only thing that has been accomplished thus far is well, nothing. You're all going to have to agree to disagree on this topic. Just try to keep in mind that we're all hunters and we're all playing on the same team, regardless of what type of weapon you choose to hunt with. Instead of focusing our energies on segregating ourselves from one another we need to focus our energies on saving our sport as a whole. Bickering about bows versus crossbows is not helping to advance or promote any aspect of hunting, so if you want to chase each other in circles with the same arguements over and over, do it elsewhere.
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