Sullivan County-Monticello-Hurleyville (3H)

Squirrelhunter91 · 03-19-2004, 06:49 AM

the coyotes and bears are overpopulating in this area of NY and killing the deer population mostly in hurleyville and my family owns 63 acres in the town of hurleyville and there basically is NO deer sign.... I just dont get it.... Didnt even harvest a deer up there this year RIFLE OR BOW OR EVEN MUZZLELOADER!!!! My dad had a shot at a 7 though but it was 40 yards out and he wasnt confident that he could make the shot WITH THE BOW..... Im looking for a way to get rid of these animals or how to find them... never did see a coyote or bear up there....

mtair · 03-24-2004, 05:02 PM

i was born and raised in hurleyville , i moved about 15 miles away 3 years ago. and i can tell you there are coyotes , but their are also plenty of deer in this area .

CatskillHuntr · 03-25-2004, 06:30 AM

For starters...yes there are alot of Coyotes over there. Bear? Not o sure......

But I'll be damned if there are no deer over there!!! I hunt over in Woodbourne, which is the next town over from Hurleyville.....there are deer up the ying yang over there....

Not a day goes by when I'm hunting over there, that I dont see a deer. To tell you the truth I've never seen a bear or coyote over there. I hunt right off of Rt. 52 near Woodbourne

doughboysigep · 03-25-2004, 11:02 AM

one point - in general, bear and coyotes do not eat live deer (bear prefer berries, insects, etc. and coyotes can find mice squirrels, etc. much easier)
coyotes will group up and take young, sick, old deer and can take newborns solo, but not their prime source of food

they will both eat dead deer (yum)

mysticguido · 03-25-2004, 11:58 AM

Sorry Doughboysigep, I have seen Coyoties bring down a deer and I have a friend that filmed a black bear attack a buck on video. I would setup trail cams to see if you really have bear & coyoties and also put out some deer feed, with a trial cam too. If you want help getting rid of the bear and coyoties Squirrel , let me know.. I'll be more then happy to help with the hunt.

Squirrelhunter91 · 03-25-2004, 01:42 PM

its illegal to put out deer feed in NY due to the unknown start of CWD....

mysticguido · 03-25-2004, 04:52 PM

then plant a food plot, butting out corn 5 to 6 months before season and stoping it 1 month before is legal. well that is what I was told.

Stump Shooter · 03-25-2004, 06:46 PM

Because of the fear of CWD, it is illegal to feed deer all year round, whether you are hunting or not. I live in western NY. Last fall a 60 year old woman was prosecuted for this because she wouldn't stop feeding the deer in her backyard that butted up to a big park. I guess they wanted to make an example out of her.

doughboysigep · 03-25-2004, 07:42 PM

dd I say that they absolutely will not eat deer????
NO, I said that it is not their primary food source and with that implied that they don't have a huge impact on the deer population. And that is true - go check some biology books. There are always exceptions to the rule.
I may eat at KFC one time and someone could see me there. Can that person assume I eat there every night??? No.

mtair · 03-26-2004, 04:02 AM

a friend of mine was brought up on charges in n.y. for feeding deer. he told the d.e.c. he was feeding turkeys. he then advised the d.e.c. to keep the deer of his land. the charges were dropped .