I just bought a share in this "club" here recently. I was wondering if there are any other shareholders on here and what your views are on the QUALITY of game it holds and on any other issues you may have with it.
I'm originally from Moorefield and hunted it a couple of times as a kid but that was 20 years ago.
I know its a huge place and is going to take some time to get to know, I was just wondering what your general feelings are about it.
thanks
also has anyone fished much in the small lakes???
thanks
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No Frank, they don't have a website. Club was formed about 25 years ago or so. As it says in the title, it's in Hardy county. Eastern panhandle (potomac highlands)
The land is right around 12,000 deeded acres and I paid $10,000.00. There's probably about 500 shares (although I'm unsure about that number as I just bought this thing last week) but rarely do I see one for sale (in the Moorefield WV newspaper...the most likely place to see one). I'd say $10,000.00 is somewhat below fmv as I'd bet I could sell that same share for $12-$15k right now, depending on where/how I advertised.
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No Frank, they don't have a website. Club was formed about 25 years ago or so. As it says in the title, it's in Hardy county. Eastern panhandle (potomac highlands)
The land is right around 12,000 deeded acres and I paid $10,000.00. There's probably about 500 shares (although I'm unsure about that number as I just bought this thing last week) but rarely do I see one for sale (in the Moorefield WV newspaper...the most likely place to see one). I'd say $10,000.00 is somewhat below fmv as I'd bet I could sell that same share for $12-$15k right now, depending on where/how I advertised.
HB..I've been hunting on a private farm outside of Baker for several years... unless the game population is 10X what we have,(and it's NOT) that's too much $$... the days of Hardy Co being in the top 10 in Deer/Turkey harvests are LOOOONG gone. the animals just aren't in hardy co. like in years past. we have neighbors' whos been trying to sell his land for 9K/Ac... ain't happening... the most he was offered by the local chicken farmer(s) was 3K( and that's too much IMHO)....glad you got into a club, if that was yor goal..wonderful ....I'm just sayin' I wouldn't pay what you did, much less what you say you'd get for selling it... but to each his own.
thanks for your reply Rem. I've already had a guy call me offering $12,000.00. He called the original seller after our deal, and was forwarded to me. I told him that I wasn't interested in selling but would keep his number...just in case.
If you figure 12,000 acres divided by, let's say 600 (even though I think it is only 500) shares, then a $10,000.00 share is equivalent to 20 acres at $500/acre.
I'd be willing to bet that I could get over 12k just advertising in the moorefield paper (especially as hunting season approaches). Advertise in the DC paper or the valley trader and the market price would be substantially higher. Either way, it doesn't really matter to me as I don't plan on selling anytime soon. I own some other land in Hardy county and this will just free me up to make some objective decisions (as I may be moving West one day) without having to worry about a place to hunt back here should the need arise. I also like the fact that this place has two lakes (flood control dams...like the one there in Mathias) and south fork river frontage....and about 40 spaces to camp in an rv...if one is so inclined.
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thanks for your reply Rem. I've already had a guy call me offering $12,000.00. He called the original seller after our deal, and was forwarded to me. I told him that I wasn't interested in selling but would keep his number...just in case.
If you figure 12,000 acres divided by, let's say 600 (even though I think it is only 500) shares, then a $10,000.00 share is equivalent to 20 acres at $500/acre.
I'd be willing to bet that I could get over 12k just advertising in the moorefield paper (especially as hunting season approaches). Advertise in the DC paper or the valley trader and the market price would be substantially higher. Either way, it doesn't really matter to me as I don't plan on selling anytime soon. I own some other land in Hardy county and this will just free me up to make some objective decisions (as I may be moving West one day) without having to worry about a place to hunt back here should the need arise. I also like the fact that this place has two lakes (flood control dams...like the one there in Mathias) and south fork river frontage....and about 40 spaces to camp in an rv...if one is so inclined.
500/ac would be a steal, IF you could do what you wanted on that parcel of land...but in that club, you can't do that. You have rules to follow,etc, and it's actually more like those time share deals on condos, as far as I can tell. you're paying for the priveledge of using it,and that's about all. you know what I mean, like you can do with your other land..that's YOURS to do with as you see fit. I think I'd rather buy land outright,but like I said, iif that's what you wanted, GREAT!!! As for having ground to hunt should you move West..there's always Monongalia/ Geo. Washington where the pressure is nothing it used to be,say, 10+ years ago... the best hunting in this state is west of I-79...and prolly will be for the foreseeable future. but I'm glad you can turn a buck on should you want to..that's always a good bonus...
did you know that there's gonna be ground sold soon for taxes up there..major parcels that were meant for sub-divisions( that collapsed with the market)?? that's where I'm looking at!!!
by "West" I meant Montana. That's what I'm really longing to do again. Permanently this time.
Anyway, those land deals you're looking at may be good too. That area is going to be a good investment no matter what, as its definately going to grow in the future.
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I've owned a share of grace since its inception in 1986, great hunting once you realize that you need to get off the roads to get away from the nimrods. I've killed several deer and a couple bear on that place, hunt areas like "the spur", "reeds creek", and huckleberry ridge.
The lake (only one on the place you can fish, called stumps run dam) is good bass fishing, useta be a top notch lake for hybrid bream but they've been fished out.
I think there are 465 shares outstanding and the club has right of first refusal so they buy back any shares at less than 8,000.00.
Yes there are rules, you can hunt, fish, cut wood, and ride ATV's on it, No you can't make a food plot without a vote by the shareholders but if you ever saw the place you wouldn't want to make a food plott on those steep ridges anyway.
As far as no deer on the farmland around baker, I'm callin BS, I hunt this area every year, the population is down from years ago but I still see 30-50 deer per day with about 8-15 bucks in the bunch.
Its been established that this area can carry 18-26 deer per square mile, we still have over 40, so they are still overpopulated. Do not expect to see these numbers on grace, its just too desolate and rough to hold that many deer. with a good mast crop you'll see plenty of deer there once you learn to hunt it, and its nothing like anywhere you hunted before.
RR
The price isn't too bad...but I couldn't deal with the jerks. I've been there and done that.
A little west in WV, You can still buy YOUR OWN land for $500 an acre.
The farm next to mine just sold a 79 acre parcel w/ a "flat place" of about 10 acres. It also had a house and free gas on it. That all sold for $55K. Absolute steal.
I understand...you'd have to drive. But the game populations are better. I'm in Braxton County.
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As far as no deer on the farmland around baker, I'm callin BS, I hunt this area every year, the population is down from years ago but I still see 30-50 deer per day with about 8-15 bucks in the bunch.
Its been established that this area can carry 18-26 deer per square mile, we still have over 40, so they are still overpopulated. Do not expect to see these numbers on grace, its just too desolate and rough to hold that many deer. with a good mast crop you'll see plenty of deer there once you learn to hunt it, and its nothing like anywhere you hunted before.
RR
over 40 deer per acre? not around Baker,Pal... nowhere close. My friends' farm is off Parker Hollow Rd, and not 5 yrs ago, you could see 40 deer while driving that road, count 'em now, Pal... you'll be lucky to see 10. You can't blame growth, as there's only been about 3 new homes built there, and to say the deer are overpopulated is wrong..they aren't NEAR carrying capacity, and won't be, unless things change(poaching has increased as well in that area). Like I said, look at the harvest totals over the past 5 years.. 2009 Buck harvest fro WVDNR.Gov:
in fact, the entire District 2 has had declining harvests of Deer AND turkey.. it was 1 of only 2 that showed repetetive decline of Gobblers this year.. District 1 was the other..ALL other areas showed increases. So as far as your calling BS, you better get yer facts straight before you speak....the numbers don't lie.
Grace property hunting club...hardy county wv
....I'm just sayin' I wouldn't pay what you did, much less what you say you'd get for selling it... but to each his own.
