I'm willing to bet

[Potterco]

all the posters whom live in deer rich areas an post so prolificly about the tons of deer they see...haven't spent more than 1 day a season in the north central WMUs a year...yet they think all of PA is like Pittsburgh

[BTBowhunter]

Originally Posted by Potterco

all the posters whom live in deer rich areas an post so prolificly about the tons of deer they see...haven't spent more than 1 day a season in the north central WMUs a year...yet they think all of PA is like Pittsburgh

You'd lose that bet.

[Potterco]

or Illinos

[Cornelius08]

I believe the largest portion of those that support the plan vocally are enviromentalists some of which dont hunt, or hunt but could really take it or leave it.

But there is no doubt that the few who are hunters and not with "other agendas" and support the plan exactly as is dont do much if any of their hunting in areas "representative of Pa". Some hunt sras on highly off limits lands. Others manage leases. Still others spend most of their hunting time out of state.

[bluebird2]

AND some don't realize or won't admit that our herd is being managed for the benefit of DCNR and the timber industry and that HR has nothing to do with the carrying capacity of the habitat.

[pats102862]

Originally Posted by bluebird2

AND some don't realize or won't admit that our herd is being managed for the benefit of DCNR and the timber industry and that HR has nothing to do with the carrying capacity of the habitat.

When was it ever managed for hunter satisfaction?

[bluebird2]

It was managed for hunter satisfaction when they were stocking deer and when there was no doe season.

Then we have this from 1966.

Basic goal – “The basic goal of deer management is to produce the
maximum number of harvestable animals consistent with other land
uses and to regulate hunting so that the annual crop will be fully
utilized.” – Game Commission biologist Harvey Roberts, 12/66 PA Game
News

[Screamin Steel]

Hunter satisfaction is typically a by product of good game management. See Ohio. Of course it helps immensely to have a strong pro hunting advocate in your Governor's office, one that gives a rat about his fellow hunters, and doesn't sell them out in favor of his ecoweenie liberal bed buddies. See all the habitat improvement in the form of the reclaimed strip mines. Now that's sound management and beneficial to many species of game and wildlife, and the deer hunting is representative of that. Granted there are many differences between NC PA and OH, but not nearly so much between SW PA and OH. Great soil, great deer potential....one state has great hunting, one is more concerned with trying to grow trees and wildflowers. It's all in the underlying political agendas. Good news is fast Eddie is on his way out, and we have an opportunity to make a huge gain if we could elect a pro hunting governor to appoint some pro hunting commisioners.

[DougE]

Originally Posted by Screamin Steel

Hunter satisfaction is typically a by product of good game management. See Ohio. Of course it helps immensely to have a strong pro hunting advocate in your Governor's office, one that gives a rat about his fellow hunters, and doesn't sell them out in favor of his ecoweenie liberal bed buddies. See all the habitat improvement in the form of the reclaimed strip mines. Now that's sound management and beneficial to many species of game and wildlife, and the deer hunting is representative of that. Granted there are many differences between NC PA and OH, but not nearly so much between SW PA and OH. Great soil, great deer potential....one state has great hunting, one is more concerned with trying to grow trees and wildflowers. It's all in the underlying political agendas. Good news is fast Eddie is on his way out, and we have an opportunity to make a huge gain if we could elect a pro hunting governor to appoint some pro hunting commisioners.

No,that's not what it's about.It used to be like that and the deer destryed the habitat accross the entire area of Pa that held the most deer.Now we're forced to put up with lower deer numbers as a result.The outright accustaions and lies on these boards are ridiculous.Now Fat Eddie is behind herd reduction.Sorry Jake but you don't have clue.

[WV Gino]

>Great soil, great deer potential....one state has great hunting, one is more concerned with trying to grow trees and wildflowers.




The Ohio DNR wants to reduce the deer herd in Eastern Ohio. They have no limit to the number of doe tags unlike PA which has a fixed alllocation of tags and an Ohio hunter hunting Eastern Oh can killl twice as many doe deers as a PA hunter hunting in Western PA can. You can kill deers in OH over bait as well.


Looks like the OH DNR is even more out to screw Johnny Deerslayer than the PA GC is.



http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting/news/story?id=3999776>

In Ohio, where reducing the deer herd is job one for the DNR's Division of Wildlife, a record 252,017 deer were killed during the 2008-09 hunting season, an increase of almost 20,000 deer over the previous year and the most since the previous record of 237,316 were harvested in 2006-2007.
"I was very pleased with the season. Hunters were encouraged to take more does and they continued to put heavy pressure on the antlerless deer," says David M. Graham, chief of the Division of Wildlife. "But work remains to lower the deer population, particularly in eastern Ohio." This, in a state that resumed legalized deer hunting in 1943, when 168 whitetails were killed in the three-county area open to hunting.



WV Gino