went for a ride walk

bowtruck · 02-25-2009, 02:56 PM

I took 4 wheeler out today cut some soft maple( have few of them thou)
and some beech down let the deer nibble on next years woods.
Then took a walk thru some of the property seen the dink 8pt
i passed on several times and the wide 4 pt and a decent 6pt the 4or 6
dont have brow tines and 8 doe come up to top of proprty see 7 more
doe no more bucks they all like they were in good shape still after all the ice that make me feel better thou anyone else out in the woods on this
fine feb day

bluebird2 · 02-25-2009, 03:32 PM

You obviously haven't experienced the effects of HR ,which explains your blind support of the PGC.

I have also been riding and walking in our area since rifle season and i've only seen one 3 pt. buck and 4 or 5 doe. I have been in the woods at least 4 or 5 days a week every week since the late ML closed and i would have been happy to see half as many deer as you saw in one day.

bowtruck · 02-25-2009, 03:42 PM

I should give you some info its my woods i own 1080 acres the people that i let hunt are told if they can shoot
doe or not my neighbor owns 800 acers and they dont kill the doe other neighbor owns 500 give or take a few
he only lets 3 people hunt i am 1 of them much farther than that they do slaughter the doe several huntting camps and they are seeing few deer and i laugh in their face.
my bigger concern is the genic problems that we have had for atleast 20 years with several bucks
that never get brow tines
I am just fortionate enough to have enough land and neighbors that think the same as me that hr hasnt
hurt us yet

bluebird2 · 02-25-2009, 03:56 PM

Then it is obvious that you have no idea what the majority of the hunters are experiencing, yet you are critical of those that have suffered the effects of a failed plan. Unless you can support your position with facts, you should be more willing to accept the observations of your fellow hunters who are suffering the consequences of the incompetent PGC.

TWOWITHONE · 02-25-2009, 04:29 PM

my bigger concern is the genic problems that we have had for atleast 20 years with several bucks

Are you in a 4 per side WMU. Those bucks like that will die of ol age or a poacher will get them in my SRA. 2-B.

bowtruck · 02-25-2009, 04:46 PM

two no i am in a 3pt on a side area

bb i do understand the effects never thought i was critical of other side i have ageed with you on some issues
i also have agreed with btb on many issues
i am here to observe other hunters thoughts on their areas and i like to see the facts to back what they say
guess i am just a hunting nut

BTBowhunter · 02-25-2009, 04:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: TWOWITHONE

my bigger concern is the genic problems that we have had for atleast 20 years with several bucks

Are you in a 4 per side WMU. Those bucks like that will die of ol age or a poacher will get them in my SRA. 2-B.

Or better yet, A junior hunter!!

bluebird2 · 02-25-2009, 04:57 PM

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well said blkpowder what does it hurt letting them grow a year

There is just one example where you sided with those supporting ARs. But ARs result in the loss of 10,000 buck /yr. to non-hunting mortality.

bowtruck · 02-25-2009, 05:03 PM

and i think ar has been good i see ar as a good thing it is hr that i dont like
just a big old opioion thats it no facts i just like the effects I see with ar
very much dislike the hr

bluebird2 · 02-25-2009, 05:12 PM

But our group has seen no benefit from ARs. without ARs we would have harvested at least 10 buck since 2002 but instead we got 3 buck. we are not rack hunters so ARs has done nothing but decrease our level of enjoyment and with HR we even feel guilty harvesting a doe. How would you like hunting under those conditions?