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Old 12-03-2002, 08:12 AM   #1
 
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How did everyone do on the rifle season opener? I missed one doe and put my tag on a very large doe. We have about 10-15" of snow on the hills in Warren county.

I didn't hear all that much shooting as in previous years, is anyone else experiencing that same lack of shooting? I quess it's to be expected with the new regs. I didn't see all that many deer at camps and at the back of picups...again, expected.

One thing that really stood out to me was the lack of hunters in the woods. I didn't see nearly as many guys as usual. I'm not sure if the heavy snowfall and cold kept them all away or is it the new regs? Does anyone know if license sales were way down this year?

Oh, in my wife's first year with doe tags and first real day of deer hunting she was sick. She did come out to the woods but only lasted until 8am. She choked in the heat of the moment when 3 doe ran right up to her and stopped at about 15 yards. She couldn't get the safety of, she couldn't get her fingert on the trigger and she couldn't shoot! It was actually funny to watch this all unfold 100 yards away. She's definitely hooked and Saturday she will be out there...hopefully she can pull the trigger this time<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Old 12-03-2002, 09:05 AM   #2
 
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I shot a large 8 point with a 20'' spread,my son also tagged a 18'' 6 point.I was done at 7:45,my son got his at 10:00,saw alot of deer including,2 spikes,a small 6 point & a small 8.

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Old 12-03-2002, 09:55 AM   #3
 
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Damn that Gary Alt!
Here it is opening day and it took until 10:00am to tag out on two nice bucks! Only 6 bucks spotted between two guys! What happened to the good old days of seeing 35 does and nailing that nice spiker as he came through?
The whole state is ruined, I tell ya, ruined!

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Old 12-03-2002, 10:23 AM   #4
 
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Hey 6ptsika,I never nailed a nice spiker in my life.With these new AR in place I can't wait until next year those 2 spikes we saw will probably be 140 class bucks next year huh?By the way,my wife just came home our 12 year old just got his first deer a 6 point I think it was the same one we seen yesterday.She also seen the other big 8 that has been running around but couldn't get a shot.I also seen 18 doe yesterday.
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Old 12-03-2002, 10:35 AM   #5
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Hmmmm, where too start........

Okay, the day was good and terrible all in one. In the morning, I was set up on the edge of woods where I knew deer would be moving into and feeding at. These woods aren't hunted but everywhere around them is. Well, at abot 7:15, I see a deer comming out of the woods to feed in front of me. I saw antlers, so, I threw my gun up. It was only a spike, so, I put my gun back down and watched him for about 30 minutes. I had seen this buck in archery season, he had ran into my calling, hit himself off a tree branch and knocked himself off his feet, then slipped on the edge of a pond and fell in. Well, yesterday, I noticed that he was limping pretty bad. But, he eventually walked off. A few minutes later, I hear a gun shot and I see my grandfather about 200 yards away walk down and start gutting a deer. I stayed in my stand and a small button buck from this year, maybe 100 pounds came out behind me at 20 yards and walk to within 5 yards. He then bedded down for about 30 minutes. I had seen this button buck EVERY day in archery season. I had shot his mother with my bow this year. Every time I was in that stand, he would come and hang around the base of my tree for a long period of time. Well, while he was bedded down, his brother, another button buck came in and bedded down with him. These two button bucks and I were really cool, I could get away with any movement in my stand during archery season because they knew I wouldn't hurt them. They would sit below me and just watch me all day. Well, yesterday, for some odd reason, the second button buck got up and walked up onto a farmers property and as soon as he stepped across the property line I heard a shot and saw him fall. That bummed me out because I had watched this deer all season. Well, I got down a little while later to help my grandfather and the other button buck that was bedded down wouldn't leave. I climbed out of my stand with him just feet away and I actually said &quot;Go buddy and good luck&quot; outloud but he just wouldn't leave. Finally, I just walked away to see what my grandfather had shot. I got up there and saw that he had shot a button buck. He thought that it was a doe because it was so big. The thing probablly weighed 125-130 pounds live weight. So, there was another bummer. I had already seen two button bucks killed and a spike limping really badly. Well, I went to a different area and on the way to my stand, I stumbled right up on a bedded buck. He was a three point. I saw him as soon as he saw me. He was no more than 5 feet from me when we finally noticed each other. His eyes got HUGE and he sat there for around a minute just looking at me. He finally got up and jumped to about 5 yards and stopped for about 2 minutes to look at me before he finally walked away. I was cracking up at how dumb this thing was, but, when he was walking away, I noticed that he had a slight limp. Not as bad as the spike, but he was limping none the less. Both him and the spike didn't have bullet holes, they were just limping from what was either fighting or getting hit by a car. I think the three point might have stepped on something because he left a tiny blood spot in between his hoofs as he walked away. Well, I saw another buck a little later on, he was a small 4 point, and wasn't legal to shoot. After that I saw roughly 30 doe before another buck. It was getting to be evening when I decided to do a small light push to my grandfather and his friend. Before I even started I heard my grandfathers friend shoot. I still pushed out this little patch of brush but, I was amazed when I came back out. My grandfathers friend had been on his way to his post when he jumped up 3 legal bucks. He shot an 8 point that had a 16 inch spread, another 8 point ran into some private property and a 7 point ran past my grandfather but my grandfather couldn't count points in time. All three of these deer were about the same size, 15-16&quot; wide with 4 inch tines. That was one nice thing, my grandfathers friend got a descent buck. Well, my grandfather still had another doe and a buck tag, I still have my buck tag, and his friend still had a doe tag. Well, I decided to do another small push and in the middle of it, I heard my grandfathers friend shoot. I got up there and saw a small deer. He told me that a huge old doe ran out along with this smaller one, but the smaller one presented a better shot so he took it. I walked up and looked at the deer only to find that it was a button buck, actually, it was the button buck that was bedded behind me all morning. This was another bummer. I had watched him and his brother grow up only to be shot in their first winter.

I came home and called my best friend to see how he had did and he had the worst time ever. He passed on a small 6 point in the morning only for it to walk over the hill to where he younger cousin was and his cousin dropped it. Well, a little while later he had a big 8 point comming in. It need to come another 20 feet before he could get a clean shot at it, when a car pulls up on the road below him. A guy gets out, runs up the hill and drops the buck. That ticked my friend off, but, the farm he was on is opening to all hunters and the guy was far enough away from the road for it to be legal. Well, towards the evening, he had a small doe come in. He passed her up and was watching her when another car pulls up and a guy pulls his gun out the window and shoots the doe. My friend watched the doe try to crawl away on its front legs because it had been shot in the rear end. Well, the guy got out of the car and ran up the hill. He shot it SEVEN MORE TIMES. While he was gutting it out, my friend ran down and got the guys liscence plate number. When he got home he called the PGC and they said that they would get back to him, but they havn't year.

Overall, I saw alot of deer, but I was terribly disappointed to see so many injured young bucks and watch so many button bucks get killed. I am just even wondering if it is worth it to keep passin on small bucks in this area. I have tried my HARDEST to get some huge bucks growing in this area, but there are already 3 less bucks in the area for next year.

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Old 12-03-2002, 11:56 AM   #6
 
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Lots of doe sited. 1 small basket racked 6 pt. Two &quot;button bucks&quot; with 1-1 1/2&quot; spikes. 1 HUGE 6 pt and a 3pt (yes a 3 pt) with at least a 20&quot; outside spread. I had the bigger 6pt about 20 yards from the base of my tree and could not put another &quot;ring hanger&quot; on him anywhere.

The big 3pt brought a question to mind between all of us that were hunting. (Several of us saw him). With the new regualtions, will it ever be possible to weed out these &quot;inferior&quot; bucks or will he get to spread his genes? I am not a wildlife biologist by any means, but I would think that a mature buck like him with very little in the point department will produce littel bucks with no points.

Anyone know ?
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:03 PM   #7
 
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Hey Chumley,I know what your saying for the past couple of years we've been seeing a huge 4 point,palmated antlers,thick bases, height,mass if there is such a thing has a trophy 4 point this guy is it.I've personally watched this buck beat the hell out of decent sized 6 & 8 pointers.But nobody can get a shot at him & now he is protected unless a youth gets him.He has been a 4 point going on 4 years,I would guess that is all he'll ever be & you can bet your a$$ he is spreding his genetics around!
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:24 PM   #8
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i was in venango co on state game lands...seen very few people and the shooting wasnt as much...alot by the road but i was a good mile from it...i was about 2 all together to my spot and guess the road is about a mile or so...i got a nice mature doe and my first buck...a basket rack 6 but a nice first buck for PA id say...and my dad got a button buck that he thought was a doe...checked to make sure it wasnt a spike or 4 pt if a buck at all and saw nothing...nice body drops it..go over and he flips it to see its a buck..sure enough it had tiny buttons..i got my buck at 915 and seen atleast 10 deer while hunting counting the ones we got and seen tonds on the 30 min drive including a really nice buck problly 20 inch spread 8+ points i couldnt count...really long tines and the main beam tips were about an inch from touching! a beauty..and on posted land! i hope he made it...i did see 2 guys hunting it on the way to camp after we got done dragging...my storie is on the deerhunting forum under what a day!! if you want details...also talked to a guy on the way out and hes like that bucks legal isnt he? i was like ya even though it dont matter for me im a junior...hes like man i dont know how you can count points! i was thinking and you are in the woods hunting because????? some people...


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Old 12-03-2002, 12:39 PM   #9
 
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CONJUGATION:
Every verb can be used in first person, second person, or third person tenses. The following chart will set it up in a simple way for you. Memorize the chart.

SINGULAR PLURAL
I ______ We _______
You _______ You ________
Person's name, he, she, it ________ Group name, they ___________

EXAMPLE ONE

Example using the verb SEE - Present Tense:
(We can add &quot;it&quot; to help the sentence flow more smoothly.)
I see it. We see it.
You see it. You see it.
Sam sees it. The birds see it.
He sees it. She sees it. It sees it. They see it.

Example using the verb SEE - Past Tense:
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Cindy saw it. The soldiers saw it.
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Monte will see it. The children will see it.
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I have seen it. We have seen it.
You have seen it. You have seen it.
Eddie has seen it. The dogs have seen it.
He has seen it. She has seen it. They have seen it.
It has seen it.

Example using the verb SEE - Past Perfect Tense:
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You had seen it. You had seen it.
Diane had seen it. The singers had seen it.
He had seen it. She had seen it. They had seen it.
It had seen it.

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You will have seen it. You will have seen it.
Tim will have seen it. The workmen will have seen it.
He will have seen it. They will have seen it.
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Old 12-03-2002, 01:08 PM   #10
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I saw 19 antlerless deer on the opening day plus a big coyote. I passed on filling my antlerless tag until later on in the season. Most of the deer were does with 7 out of the groups being young of the year. 3 of the does where quite large and one of those will be one I'll take later in the season
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