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skinnerdawg · 08-24-2005, 12:19 PM

all's i can say about blaze orange is that it is a good idea to use........ but common sense goes a long ways as well. i wear it because i want to be seen by other hunters......... as for making it a mandatory law... i really dont think that needs to be done.

SalCucco · 08-24-2005, 12:31 PM

I have hunted in new york my entire life and regardless of if i'm on state land or private land i always wear blaze orange. Even if the other guy is responsible hunter and takes decent shots at deer i like the fact that maybe if i am in line with his shot at some distance my blaze will catch his eye before he pulls the trigger.

Now i know that if you are in thick pines or woods you can't see blaze but oftentimes travelling up route 17 in season you could see guys in blaze on the tops of the mountains in a car moving at 70 mph.

I think that it is just common sense now to wear blaze during gun season. I wouldn't want it to turn in a pennsylvania where the rules for bow season change every other week with the turkey season , earliy muzzle loader etc.

B&C Wanna B · 08-24-2005, 12:34 PM

See I am looking a little deeper. I go by the line of thought that i am more likely to see another hunter who is wearing blaze orage than one who isnt. That said, You are saying that you are more comfortable with full camo. The entire purpose of full camo is to go unseen. how can i be 100% sure that you are not in the background of my shot if you are invisible to the human eye. The only part of your argument that i partially agree with is that you shouldn't have to wear it on private land.
Although that brings int account an entirely new set of considerations. Tresspassing is typically not done in blaze oragne. Youare still taking the risk that tresspassers will not be seen or considered because you are operating under the assumption that the woods are empty. If blaze orange were mandatory it would make tresspassing that much harder.

But the fact remains teh rule isnt there for the people who spend the time to debate over it. It is there because of the people who cannot and will never be capable of conducting themselves in a manner that you or I would see fit. Those people are the reason that I wear orange and will continue to do so. You cant teach tehse people anything they are not interested in learning. Think about it for a moment. Hoow many times have you come off of state land and said to yourself.....Wow that was probably the guy spewing round after round into the forest all day. That is the guy that makes me want to wear blaze orange and i want him in a pumpkin suit.

The whole thing about hunting being a dangerous sport is nonsense. It is not a dangerous sport and it could be alot safer than it already is. But im sure you didnt mean taht it was inherently dangerous, you were just trying to make us BO advocates look bad because we fearwacko hunters. If you didnt fear these people you would be the crazy one.

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DannyD · 08-24-2005, 02:03 PM

I understand the need to have freedom to make your own decisions. In this case though and in some others my opinion differs.

Wearing BO can be compared to wearing a seatbelt. you may think that it's a freedom of choice that you have and maybe it should be. But both decisions may also effect others.
If seatbelts do in fact save lives and you choose not to wear one and die because of it in a crash then you have effected the lives of your family. is that fair to them?

How do you think someone might feel if they were taking a shot at a deer, they thought the areabeyond was clear and wound up shooting you because you made the choice not to wear the BO. Some might be able to rationalize that it was your choice and it shouldnt bother me. I couldn't. AlsoIf the accident rate went up (more people being shot) then could it potentially give some fuel to the "no hunting" lobbiest? just a thought

johnl · 08-24-2005, 02:59 PM

the fact still remains that New York hunters VOLUNTARILLY wear blaze orange more than states that mandate it .Why make this a law ? How do you plan on enforceing it ? Hire more DEC agents and raise our taxes even more ?

thesource · 08-24-2005, 03:01 PM

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I see BO advocates in a similar light as Anti-gun advocates; Both groups claim to know what is right for me, and want to force me to conform t their idea of what is safe,,, What ever happened to something called freedom to make your own decisions?

I bet 7 out of every 10 hunters shot in NY used to feel the same way as you.

doughboysigep · 08-24-2005, 04:00 PM

what is the big deal about throwing on a blaze cap or vest in gun season? why are some so addinmently against it???? can any come up with one good reason why they can't, won't, don't want to.... wear some blaze???

I understand that the initial bill was vague and didn't clarify between seasons and should of been vetoed last year. if they would clarify it to encompass gun season and gun hunters (deer/small game) and exclude bow hunters and turkeys hunters, I think it would work. I know this is a bit oversimplified (what about non-hunters and how do you distinguish between a fall turkey hunter and a small gam hunter, etc) but does seem logical to me.