PA hunting Lic.

[elkdreamer]

[:'(]Went to get my hunting license and was told and shown the new law that said everybody will have to have a social security number . this is a federal law or as I see it as away to know who has guns and who doesn't. I guess everybody that hunts or traps will have to worry about Identity theft thanks to the goverment [:@][:@]

[Matt / PA]

I believe it's a way to keep someone from buying multiple licenses or tags illegally.
Addresses change, names can change or be altered or used differently......social security numbers are unique and do not change.

[cardeer]

I'm curious ,do they actually want to see your SS # ,or just ask to have you write it on the application ????

[Bowtech9]

Not so sure about it being a way to track who is buying or has guns because on the Federal form # 4473 (purchasing a firearm) your social security numer is optional. It may be a way of PA tracking Deadbeat Dads orconvicted criminals who are not suppose to bear arms. Has anyone placed a call to Game Commission ih Harissburg and asked why a SS# is not needed to get a license?

[Jason N]

Not so sure about it being a way to track who is buying or has guns because on the Federal form # 4473 (purchasing a firearm) your social security numer is optional. It may be a way of PA tracking Deadbeat Dads or convicted criminals who are not suppose to bear arms. Has anyone placed a call to Game Commission ih Harissburg and asked why a SS# is not needed to get a license?

It isn't a way to track firearms ownership. It is a 'deadbeat dad' harnessing tactic. Your SSN is no longer optional on 4473....just bought a new rifle on Friday and it is now mandatory. This has been discussed here and at a greater length on huntingpa.com. It isn't a PGC thing either as some would make you believe, it's a federal and state mandate.

[T_in_PA3]

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=460&q=158672

[Bowtech9]

ORIGINAL: Jason N

Your SSN is no longer optional on 4473....just bought a new rifle on Friday and it is now mandatory. .

I don't want to argue with you but I am a firearms dealer in CT and as you can see on the #4473 is still listed as opitional. I think it is a PA thing.

http://www.atf.gov/forms/4473/

[Bowtech9]

ORIGINAL: T_in_PA3

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=460&q=158672

Jason N

As you can see by T_in_PA link it is a Federal law that only affects purchasing License not firearms. In CT we do not ask for SS# the State issues a list to every agent that sell Fishing, Hunting License and if a person is prohibited ( for whatever reason) from getting a license he will be on that list

[PaJack]

I got mine at Wal-Mart,they just asked...

[Jason N]

I don't want to argue with you but I am a firearms dealer in CT and as you can see on the #4473 is still listed as opitional. I think it is a PA thing.

The way it was explained to me is as follows: It used to be optional and the feds changed the regs and is no longer an option but mandatory. If this isn't correct I have to take the blame because I didn't even question it when I filled it out. Frankly, I don't really mind using it for what I feel are worthy causes, but somethings, like cell phones, internet access, etc. I feel are crossing the line.

As you can see by T_in_PA link it is a Federal law that only affects purchasing License not firearms. In CT we do not ask for SS# the State issues a list to every agent that sell Fishing, Hunting License and if a person is prohibited ( for whatever reason) from getting a license he will be on that list

That's the way it used to be(maybe still is?) in PA. I knew the federal law mandating the SSN on licenses, but was unaware of any for firearms purchases. I haven't bought a gun from a dealer in about 6 years until last Friday....I just assume they knew what was going on and let it at that....shame on me.