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Old 01-14-2009, 06:36 PM   #1
 
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Default Wolves De-listed

Not sure if everyone has heard yet, but today the United States Fish and Wildlife
Service de-listed wolves (again) from the Endangered species list. I believe it takes
30 days before they are officially removed, but this is probably the best thing that can
happen for Wisconsin's deer herd in the Northern part of the state. Last year they we're de-listed, but someone decided they knew better and sued to re-list them and some U.S. Judge agreed. Now that they are again off the list, its up to the individual states to manage them. I would imagine they will
have livestock damage tags to issuefarmers to kill some, and then I guess we'll see from there.

Looks like at least one step in the right direction!!!!! This is Good!!!!!!

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Old 01-15-2009, 07:23 AM   #2
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I heard the same thing this morning, but the animal rights activists will be on this like flies on s**t.

They were the reason I believe the wolves were put back on the endangered list. I guess we will see!
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:54 AM   #3
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Well the wolves are a lot thicker up north then the DNR will ever admit to. But I do not think you will see a season on them for some time. The locals I talked to this year saw as many or more wolves then they did deer.
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:06 PM   #4
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IHAVE A FRIEND WHO LOST TWO BEAR DOGS TO WOLVES AND I REALLY THINK ANY WOLF WILL BE A DEAD WOLF FROM NOW ON.

If something isn't done real soon the farmers and bear hunters will take care of it for them. Just let the DNR handle it and they will be gone like our deer herd is. Between the wolves and the DNR our deer won't have a chance.
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:02 PM   #5
 
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You godda remember, these wolves are vital to the natural cycle of life. Its ok to kill one in self defense or in defense of livestock, but if we go out and kill all we see, we won't be any better than they are. That reckless killing is why I have to pay 1 or 2 grand to hunt buffalo, and why the great Native American culture is now almost gone. I'm not a hippy, I just love Earth how it is.

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Old 01-30-2009, 04:31 PM   #6
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I'm sure if you asked farmers and houndsmen , they would also say they liked the earth like it was before the wolf was re-established in WI. There is a place for wolves and that is mounted and on display. Wolves kill dogs, cats, deer, cattle and so on and so on. I can see them being in the mountains or un populated areas just not here.If wolves do damage to livestock, who do you think pays for the farmers loss??? The answer is------------------- We Do!!!!!

The great native culture you talk about was ruined by market hunters - Wolf on the other hand was exterminated because they prey on anything that is alive!

I AM AN OLD HIPPY AND I DISLIKE WOLVES[:@][:@][:@]
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Alright ,alright.I didnt mean to make youangry... I just mean ifyou dislike something, the answer is never to kill it. Its quick and easy, but it comes back to haunt you. I dont know much, being young and all,so I dont know.Man also kills cats dogs deer and cattle, and I have no mounted humans on display. Its the way things are, and its sadly a fact of life that things kill things. I dont like arguing, so Ill just backoff this one...

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Old 01-31-2009, 08:51 AM   #8
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I heard more wolf complaints this year in MN, statewide pretty much then I have heard in a long time. I know that there were plenty of occassions where the next day or something I would walk in somewhere I had been the day before and there were wolf tracks in boot tracks. I think it would be a good thing to manage wolves and keep them in check populatin wise and in check pecking order wise.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:07 PM   #9
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As sportsman we are supposed to be stewards of our natural systems. De-listing the wolves should not be seen as a victory for sportsman. I can only hope that protection can continue at the state level...which it most likely will. It never ceases to amaze me how the anti-wolf propaganda from the 1950's continues today; wolves are a vital part of the northern midwests ecosystem, not the ruthless savage killers they've been made out to be. Livestock damage tags and problem wolf tags are not necessarily a bad idea in "high" density areas, but if hunters continue to spread this fear mongering among our ranks we're going to see the extinction of wolves in our lifetime...which despite what some of you seem to think, would be a tragedy.
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You godda remember, these wolves are vital to the natural cycle of life. Its ok to kill one in self defense or in defense of livestock, but if we go out and kill all we see, we won't be any better than they are. That reckless killing is why I have to pay 1 or 2 grand to hunt buffalo, and why the great Native American culture is now almost gone. I'm not a hippy, I just love Earth how it is.

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In addition to what mr.mc54 said, wolves have destroyed the northern Wisconsindeer populations. Where I was hunting, registrations were down 50% from 2007 and 20% for the whole state. Do you think bears, coyotes and the previous winter did this? Absolutely not. Ever since the DNR re-introduced wolves into the WI ecosystem, deer numbers have been dropping and dropping. Wolves are not a native species anymore, so the deer don't recognize the danger, and as a result, get killed.

I hear so many people say "Wolves are great, they should stay." Why? How are they so great? What are they doing to improve anything? The best thing to do is to completely eradicate them again.
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