i got my summit 180 max. you can face tree. when i do my body safety harness strap will not reach tree.i am about 5 ft short.facing away from tree it is fine.
anyone have way that you secure yourself while facing a tree.thanks sproul
Contact the stand manufacturer, assuming they sold you both the harness and the tree stand. You need to bring it to their attention. Either you are doing something wrong; or they made a manufacturing error.
Interesting, I have a 15 year old tree stand, where I also can face the tree. (love it) But my old fashion tree stand body strap, furnished, always fit in the stand and especially going up and coming down the tree.
Check with the manufacturer. Most have web sites and methods of sending email messages.
Contact the stand manufacturer, assuming they sold you both the harness and the tree stand. You need to bring it to their attention. Either you are doing something wrong; or they made a manufacturing error.
Interesting, I have a 15 year old tree stand, where I also can face the tree. (love it) But my old fashion tree stand body strap, furnished, always fit in the stand and especially going up and coming down the tree.
Check with the manufacturer. Most have web sites and methods of sending email messages.
thanks val. i did call summit and they said,SPROUL YOU ARE RIGHT OUR HARNESS TO TREE IS NOT ADJUSTABLE.
THATS REALLY ALL THEY SAID OTHER THAN HE SAID buy a purassic knot rope to tie to tree.
i am like 5 ft from tree while facing it.i did see when i enlarged the summit 180 max that kid did have rope like strap going to tree.
dont know what rope is called but summit mentioned a PURASSIC KNOT OR SOMETHING?
Sproul,
They were talking about a Prussic Knot (a mountaineering hitch knot) which it tied to a safety line. HSS (Hunter Safety Systems) sells a 30ft rope and knot system for about $30. I always use a 'prussic to safety line' when using my climber and lock-on; but I didn't buy HSS's. I made my own (cost $10); works great and adds a great degree of confidence. If you have any ability with tying knots, try it. There are plenty of Youtube videos with good instructions on how to and use of.
littlekid
Sproul,
They were talking about a Prussic Knot (a mountaineering hitch knot) which it tied to a safety line. HSS (Hunter Safety Systems) sells a 30ft rope and knot system for about $30. I always use a 'prussic to safety line' when using my climber and lock-on; but I didn't buy HSS's. I made my own (cost $10); works great and adds a great degree of confidence. If you have any ability with tying knots, try it. There are plenty of Youtube videos with good instructions on how to and use of.
littlekid
thanks .did not know it was on you tube.will look at that.
yes i dont like spending 30 dollars for another strap/rope.
can you use this to climb tree also so i dont have to change straps at top. like doing away with the summit strap that came with my 180 max.
i like facing tree more than away from it.i put strap on steps 1 on each side of tree and i can recline facing tree just like tree lounge with my summit 180 max.
man ,what a relaxing way to sit when things get slow. i love that 180 max facing tree..........
i found a guy who makes a rope .he is making me climbing rope to be used for CLIMBERS .it wraps around tree to be used up/down just like the summitstrap i have but its a rope.
the neat thing is he is making it 12 ft for me.4 ft will be around tree and when i am sitting with my summit facing tree,it gives me 8 ft of slack with that prissy knot thing .
he has them pre made for 16 dollars tyd for 9ft or 19.95 for 12 ft.
you can use PAYPAL also to pay.
this should get me away from that strap that came with my summit that i never liked, its heavy with metal hasp and i was always fooling with it on tree to adjust and would not reach my body harness when facing tree with my 180 max.
This is the exact set-up I made for myself and my father. It cost me approx. $5-7 per stand with excess rope left for replacement(30ft main line). I (145 lbs), and my father(290lbs) tested my set-up by actually falling out of our stands @ a height of 10 feet (with a 10ft ladder at the ready) to determine rope stretch, impact load, and comfortablity on our harnesses. This system works as it should; thus the reason mountaineers use it.
If you decide to make your own, please be cognizant of the 'main line' and 'knot line''s working and breaking strength.
This is the exact set-up I made for myself and my father. It cost me approx. $5-7 per stand with excess rope left for replacement(30ft main line). I (145 lbs), and my father(290lbs) tested my set-up by actually falling out of our stands @ a height of 10 feet (with a 10ft ladder at the ready) to determine rope stretch, impact load, and comfortablity on our harnesses. This system works as it should; thus the reason mountaineers use it.
If you decide to make your own, please be cognizant of the 'main line' and 'knot line''s working and breaking strength.
your line should be 4500 pd rating from what i read.and rope should be certain kind,i cant remember the name.
You're correct...a 4500lb rating, or more, is preferable. You must remember that 'most' ropes are rated on a "load/work rating" (ability to handle a # of lbs. repeatedly for a period of time) not exactly their breaking strength (which is approxiamately + or -10% of the work load).
That being said, since I opted not to purchase the "optimal mountaineering" ropes available (made for long term usage), I use a diamond weave nylon core rope available @ my local Home Depot. It's not weather proofed and the surface weave does have a tendency to 'sliver' after 6 months in the woods, but...for the price paid, I can handle the replacement cost.
Trust me, with a Physics professor as a father, multiple experiments were necessary before usage; and after 2 years of use and experimentation, this system still works.
Best of luck to you,
littlekid
Safety harness to short?
