CHOCOLATE STUD IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS

dgrunloh · 06-20-2007, 12:24 PM

MR. GRUNLOH"™S CHOCOLATE DOG, "œSCOUT" AKC Number: SR27055401
(TECUMSEH"™S GOOSE GETTER X CREAMLEVEL CREEK"™S LITTLE BINGO BANGO)
2 Year old Chocolate Labrador to stud $300. Strong frame 80 LBS with blocky head. Excellent dual purpose waterfowl and upland game hunter. Nice mellow disposition around the house, hard core in the blind. Top pedigree. Email for information and pedigree.

DECEMBER 2006 @ CARYLE LAKE

PEDIGREE

STUD owner, DOUG GRUNLOH
14410 NORTH 1950TH STREET
TEUTOPOLIS, ILLINOIS 62467
Phone: 217-821-5664 Email: grnlh@hotmail.com

Doc E · 06-20-2007, 07:26 PM

Top Pedigree? One grandparent with a JUNIOR Hunter title and one top notch FC AFC (James).Two great-great grandparents with MH and one with AFC.I certainly wouldn't call that a "Top Pedigree".

I looked your stud up at OFA, and he has ZERO health certifications ---
No OFA Hip or OFA Elbow or CERF [

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Have you done any genetic testing on your dog?

I see that your dog's sire (Goose Getter) is OFA Good on hips (no CERF or Elbows though) and the dam is uncertified by OFA on anything.
"Brubeck" is OFA Good on hips, Normal on Elbows and is CERF Normal (clear). "Tecumseh" is OFA Excellent on hips, Normal on Elbows and is CERF Normal (clear).

Do you have any standards for prospective females? Such as OFA, CERF, CNM, Brucellosis etc? Or is it that he is available to any and all?

If I am incorrect about any of this, please feel free to correct me and I will be the first to apologize. If I am correct....................Well, 'nuff said for now.

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Doc E · 06-22-2007, 07:32 PM

Hmmmmmmmm. No reply? (and you've been online here a time or two, so I would certainly imagine that you've seen my post) I guess you agree with the "nuff said", huh.

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dgrunloh · 06-23-2007, 04:52 AM

SORRY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG TO REPLY. I HAVE BEEN BUSY. AS YOU COULD SEE FROM SCOUT'S PED. THAT HE HAS JUST TURNED 24 MONTHS AND THE RESULTS FROM HIS HIPS,ELBOWS DNA TESTING ARE NOT BACK YET. THAT IS WHY THOSE CERTIFICATIONS ARE NOT ON THE ADD.

YES I DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR FEMALES, THOSE ARE IN MY BREEDING AGREEMENT.

HAVE A NICE DAY

Doc E · 06-23-2007, 08:43 AM

So, you're offering him for stud without knowing his results.
How about CERF (can be done at any age)?
How about CNM (also can be done at any age)?
How about PRA (also can be done at any age)?

I'm not ready to apologize yet.

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mustad · 06-25-2007, 05:38 AM

What is the age where the results of these tests are no longer questioned?

If I have my dog's joints checked prior to two years of age, I will have to do it at two as well. Prior to that age is only valuable for informational purposes only. It's after the dog turns two where the official tests are taken.

Is this the same for a lab?

Doc E · 06-28-2007, 07:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: mustad

What is the age where the results of these tests are no longer questioned?

If I have my dog's joints checked prior to two years of age, I will have to do it at two as well. Prior to that age is only valuable for informational purposes only. It's after the dog turns two where the official tests are taken.

Is this the same for a lab?

Yup - it's the same regardless of breed -xrays taken before age two are "preliminary" only. OFA wants a dog to be skeletally mature (age 2) before they can get a final (permanent) rating. PENN hip will give you a rating (I think anytime after 6 months of age). PENN doesn't do elbows.

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