AKC Black Lab pups/4 time master nat. champ. lines
7 males from a four time master national champion line (Country clubs super sabre MH) recently inducted into the national retriever hall of fame. Ofa for 6 generations, Cerf Certification on eyes. Excellent health, first shots and worming done...will ship for the right people at new owners expense. Pups have been put on birds at 8 weeks and wings before that, have had shots fired during meal times to gun break. These will make excellent field and family dogs. $500. Ready now, Will board until Christmas if needed. cell phone # 360-670-5349 (washington state)
RE: AKC Black Lab pups/4 time master nat. champ. lines
Curious, why you shooting during dinner?? Why not while going and getting the birds? So you mean that the dog has had 4 master national passes, I don't recall the championship part, I always understood it to be pass or fail. Because that means that there are alot of champion retrievers out there. Or is it FC, AFC, NFC, CFC, CAFC, OR NACFC? I have alot of clients looking for dogs, and we need to be on the same page. Thanks Jonesy
RE: AKC Black Lab pups/4 time master nat. champ. lines
Ifire during dinner time to associate the sound with positive enforcement, we have never had a gun shy pup out of any of our litters to date with this method. We then graduate to birds withgunshotat about 10 weeks, just so they are really developed and positivewith the sound of the gun. As far as championships go, you are right it is a pass or fail for qualifing scores however you can qualify for Nationals at the end of each year, (I believe this yearit was held inTexas)with a certain number of passes per year for Master hunter tests. This particular dog qualified and won Nationals for four years in a row. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.
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4 National passes is great (exceptional), but there is NO number of Nationals you can pass that would give you a "Championship" title.
And $500 seems pretty inexpensive (what titles does the Feamle have?)
How about dew claws and what kind of (genetic disease) health guarantee?
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RE: AKC Black Lab pups/4 time master nat. champ. lines
forgive me, that is the way it was told to me...upon further inspection I now realize that you are right. He does have four Master National Passes...I myself have put only a Junior Hunt title (do to time not ability of the dog) on the mother as well as a CGC, although her sister does have a Master hunt title and multiple of her littermates have hunt titles.
As far as dew claws go, I do not remove them because in all the years of being raised with and hunting birds dogs I personaly have never had a problem with them. I realize that this is some peoples preference however I choose not to physically altermy dogs.
As far as genetic disease health guarantee I can tell you that I have never felt the need to offer this. We have owned this line personally for 10 years and have never had an issue. No allergies, no skin problems, no hip, elbow or eye problems on any of my dogs or any of the dogs I have sold.I am also very particular who I breed with to help eliminate these problems in the breed itself...No one has ever brought one of our dogs back...given that history, do you think I should offer a guarantee? I probably wouldn't ever be out anything if I did.
The reason I choose to offer the dogs for $500 is because the mother only has a junior title...next year that will change as I am working on her senior.
I thought I should clarify even though it is irrelavant, all of the pups are gone now. I am now taking reservations for the next litter that will be 1.5 years away...so please, let me know if you are interested.
ps.Thank you for taking the time to educate me on that little detail earlier...it is nice to know that people are paying attention
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1. As far as dew claws go, I do not remove them because in all the years of being raised with and hunting birds dogs I personaly have never had a problem with them. I realize that this is some peoples preference however I choose not to physically altermy dogs.
2. As far as genetic disease health guarantee I can tell you that I have never felt the need to offer this. We have owned this line personally for 10 years and have never had an issue. No allergies, no skin problems, no hip, elbow or eye problems on any of my dogs or any of the dogs I have sold.I am also very particular who I breed with to help eliminate these problems in the breed itself...
3. No one has ever brought one of our dogs back...given that history, do you think I should offer a guarantee? I probably wouldn't ever be out anything if I did.
4. The reason I choose to offer the dogs for $500 is because the mother only has a junior title...next year that will change as I am working on her senior.
5. I thought I should clarify even though it is irrelavant, all of the pups are gone now. I am now taking reservations for the next litter that will be 1.5 years away...so please, let me know if you are interested.
6. ps.Thank you for taking the time to educate me on that little detail earlier...it is nice to know that people are paying attention
1. I understand, but if you've ever witnessed a torn Dew Claw, they are nasty. For $3 to $8 per pup (depending on the Vet), it's pretty cheap.
2. The best way to eliminate genetic diseases is to have the parents tested and cleared. Just because "there has never been an issue", doesn't mean that a mutation can't show up. Even breeding an OFA Good to another OFA good = 16.5% of the pups will be Dysplastic.
3. I think that every reputable breeder should guarantee their pups. If there is never a problem, all the better.
4. Good price.
5. That gives you a year and a half to get your female tested (OFA hips, OFA Elbows, and CERF on eyes). Some folks are testing for CNM as well, but it's a fairly new test and not highly used so far (but it will be).
6. More education here as well.
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RE: AKC Black Lab pups/4 time master nat. champ. lines
Hey Doc, just so you know...I do have OFA good on the parents hips and elbows...and yes the eyes have checked out clear with Cerf. In case you missed that in my first post. I am not an irresponsible breeder in anyway. I am very particular about my breedings and only choose to have a litter every two years. My maxium on litters per female is three and I do try to put titles on my dogs as well. I am not in this to just turn a fast buck, I would like to see this breed furthered through selective breeding.
I just thought I should clarify as you seem to have missed reading through my original post about the health of my dogs.
I apperciate that you make a point of asking every one about their dogs in this thread. Thank you, but not every one is a back yard breeder pushing out puppies in mills.
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5. That gives you a year and a half to get your female tested (OFA hips, OFA Elbows, and CERF on eyes). Some folks are testing for CNM as well, but it's a fairly new test and not highly used so far (but it will be).
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I beleive if the bitch has aready produced a litter her hips will not test as they would before being bred. In my guarantee dogs must be tested before breeding.
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