Help stop bow hunting ban in texas
08-27-2014, 04:33 PM
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Help stop bow hunting ban in texas
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Hope everyone is doing well.
After a life long dream of buying a few acres and building home I come to find that Comal County is the only county in the state of Texas to have a ban on bow hunting on 10 acres or less! It is just insane the amount of deer (30+) every night in my back yard.
Please sign this petition, and read the information and background on the ordinance. AND FORWARD TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS - THIS IS TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS!
http://www.change.org/p/comal-county...ow-hunting-ban
Here is the story:
Comal County is currently theONLYcounty in the state of Texas to adopt an ordinance specifically banning bow hunting on 10 acres or less within a subdivision in the unincorporated portion of the county.This ordinance was passed in 1993.In researching the minutes and interviewing the sitting county judge (at that time) none of them can recount the discussion or real purpose “why” this ordinance was enacted by the county.Only one person after over 35 interviews of county officials, residents, etc. have been able to recount the story (the current Comal County fire marshal who said he was in attendance at the commissioners court that day) – One citizen came in and complained about an arrow stuck in their house from and adjacent property in a subdivision, this particular resident (now deceased) had a personal relationship with commissioner “Jumbo” Evans and convinced them to use the well known “10 acre rule” by the state of Texas allowing counties to dictate hunting and firearms/bows on 10 acres or less to in act this ban on bow hunting.
Since 1993 the whitetail deer population has seen phenomenal growth within the county, much due to the enactment of this ordinance. So much so, the entire county has epidemic levels of overpopulation of whitetail deer.
This ordinance limits the right of a property owner to protect their investment, cost the county of Comal hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer funds (over 999 sheriff dept. calls to address wounded deer-car collisions in the first 6 months of 2014, 250+ road department pick up of dead deer calls first 6 months of 2014, county landscape/trees damaged by deer). Private party depredation of landscapes, and poses a MAJOR safety threat through vehicle deer, human/deer/pet interactions-disease transfers.In 2011 a woman was killed after striking a deer and veered into the other lane critically injuring to others (this is just one I could find). On top of the overwhelming issue of the health of the deer, many of which are starving, diseases (abdomasal parasites, throat bots, etc.) and causing a profound crisis against the deer population caused by humans.
There are also “holes” in the ordinance (that cause it to represent a significant level of discrimination against a specific portion of property owners – those interested bow hunting) such as:
1.A person can actually shoot a rifle at a “varmint” or “predator” on a lot less than 10 acres in a subdivision in an unincorporated area of the county. See ordinance 316154.
2.A person could shoot (by bow or firearm) a deer on such a lot in many of the incorporated cities within Comal County as that do not have an ordinance against bow hunting.
3.The multiple small acreage lots around the county NOT in a subdivision and less than 10 acres could “hunt” via firearm or bow??? What about the acreage lots less than 10 acres that border these subdivisions?
4.Axis deer/Black Buck/Wild Pigs are non-game animals or “varmints” and a person can shoot these animals (of which there are many in Comal County) with a rifle on a property less than 10 acres in a subdivision – but not a bow as this would be considered “bow hunting”.
5.A PERSON CAN SHOOT A BOW AT A TARGET (OR FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE) ANYWHERE ON 10 ACRES OR LESS BUT ONE CANNOT SHOOT THE DEER STANDING 5 FEET FROM A TARGET!!
Requests has been made to the Comal County commissioners court to address this issue – in a large binder (over 1,00 0 pages of factual data) to each commissioner with data on population in many subdivisions, letters from HOA’s supporting bow hunting, data on county resources spent on the issue, letter from LSBA andTexasbowhunter.com, etc. And they will not move on the issue, the only reason any of them can site is, “we are afraid of upsetting someone”.REALLY??? No fact based information, nothing.
Hope everyone is doing well.
After a life long dream of buying a few acres and building home I come to find that Comal County is the only county in the state of Texas to have a ban on bow hunting on 10 acres or less! It is just insane the amount of deer (30+) every night in my back yard.
Please sign this petition, and read the information and background on the ordinance. AND FORWARD TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS - THIS IS TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS!
http://www.change.org/p/comal-county...ow-hunting-ban
Here is the story:
Comal County is currently theONLYcounty in the state of Texas to adopt an ordinance specifically banning bow hunting on 10 acres or less within a subdivision in the unincorporated portion of the county.This ordinance was passed in 1993.In researching the minutes and interviewing the sitting county judge (at that time) none of them can recount the discussion or real purpose “why” this ordinance was enacted by the county.Only one person after over 35 interviews of county officials, residents, etc. have been able to recount the story (the current Comal County fire marshal who said he was in attendance at the commissioners court that day) – One citizen came in and complained about an arrow stuck in their house from and adjacent property in a subdivision, this particular resident (now deceased) had a personal relationship with commissioner “Jumbo” Evans and convinced them to use the well known “10 acre rule” by the state of Texas allowing counties to dictate hunting and firearms/bows on 10 acres or less to in act this ban on bow hunting.
Since 1993 the whitetail deer population has seen phenomenal growth within the county, much due to the enactment of this ordinance. So much so, the entire county has epidemic levels of overpopulation of whitetail deer.
This ordinance limits the right of a property owner to protect their investment, cost the county of Comal hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer funds (over 999 sheriff dept. calls to address wounded deer-car collisions in the first 6 months of 2014, 250+ road department pick up of dead deer calls first 6 months of 2014, county landscape/trees damaged by deer). Private party depredation of landscapes, and poses a MAJOR safety threat through vehicle deer, human/deer/pet interactions-disease transfers.In 2011 a woman was killed after striking a deer and veered into the other lane critically injuring to others (this is just one I could find). On top of the overwhelming issue of the health of the deer, many of which are starving, diseases (abdomasal parasites, throat bots, etc.) and causing a profound crisis against the deer population caused by humans.
There are also “holes” in the ordinance (that cause it to represent a significant level of discrimination against a specific portion of property owners – those interested bow hunting) such as:
1.A person can actually shoot a rifle at a “varmint” or “predator” on a lot less than 10 acres in a subdivision in an unincorporated area of the county. See ordinance 316154.
2.A person could shoot (by bow or firearm) a deer on such a lot in many of the incorporated cities within Comal County as that do not have an ordinance against bow hunting.
3.The multiple small acreage lots around the county NOT in a subdivision and less than 10 acres could “hunt” via firearm or bow??? What about the acreage lots less than 10 acres that border these subdivisions?
4.Axis deer/Black Buck/Wild Pigs are non-game animals or “varmints” and a person can shoot these animals (of which there are many in Comal County) with a rifle on a property less than 10 acres in a subdivision – but not a bow as this would be considered “bow hunting”.
5.A PERSON CAN SHOOT A BOW AT A TARGET (OR FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE) ANYWHERE ON 10 ACRES OR LESS BUT ONE CANNOT SHOOT THE DEER STANDING 5 FEET FROM A TARGET!!
Requests has been made to the Comal County commissioners court to address this issue – in a large binder (over 1,00 0 pages of factual data) to each commissioner with data on population in many subdivisions, letters from HOA’s supporting bow hunting, data on county resources spent on the issue, letter from LSBA andTexasbowhunter.com, etc. And they will not move on the issue, the only reason any of them can site is, “we are afraid of upsetting someone”.REALLY??? No fact based information, nothing.
11-24-2014, 07:06 AM
#3
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
I wouldn't look for the OP to answer your question, as he hasn't been back on the site since the day he made the post! It's a stupid law and I doubt that anyone who doesn't live in that county that signs anything would have any meaning.
11-25-2014, 12:21 PM
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,926
As one amateur lawyer to another
He lost his case when he mentioned the county, without mentioning where it was.
Since it is in the suburbs of San Antonio, there will be in the next twenty five years, no increased opportunity to see an increase of hunting in San Antonio, Texas suburbs.
Since it is in the suburbs of San Antonio, there will be in the next twenty five years, no increased opportunity to see an increase of hunting in San Antonio, Texas suburbs.
