I have heard of these guns and it seems that this may fit the terrain I hunt more... I would like to use it for Damage control on Coyotes and other varmits. Possibly deer, what have you experienced with the guns and types of bullets? Thanks, - Buckhunter14
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Judging by your user name, I'm guessing you already deer hunt and hence already have a deer rifle. Your post says you want to use your new rifle for coyotes and other varmints . . . and then throw in, "possibly deer." If 90% of your shooting will be for coyotes and smaller varmints, and you already have a deer rifle, I advise you to go with something like a .223.
I have a .25-06 and love it. However, it is pretty loud (even with a 24" barrel) and the kick is not negligible. A .243 would readily handle the "coyotes, assorted varmints, and possibly deer" quite handily and be both quieter and lighter recoil than the .25-06.
Maybe you aren't fully expressing your goals for this rifle, but based on what you have said, I would go with the .223. I haven't shot one, but I've seen the shells, and that leads me to believe they are quieter and lighter recoil than the .25-06. Also, .25-06 cartridges are not cheap. I'm sure the .223 cartridges are substantially cheaper than .25-06 cartridges.
The new 25 WSSM from Winchester® Ammunition is the latest in the WSSM line-up of super short calibers. It utilizes the same diameter bullet (.257) and produces comparable ballistics to the long action 25-06 Rem. and is far superior to the 257 Roberts and easily outclasses the whitetail standout, 7mm-08 Rem. However, the 25 WSSM is considerably shorter, chambering nicely in the super-short action of the Model 70. This makes for a lighter, faster handling rifle. Those looking for the ultimate whitetail cartridge need look no further, 25 WSSM has arrived.
I've had a couple of 25-06's one in a 700 mountain rifle and currently in a 700 classic. Ammunition is READILY available at very reasonable prices... i have no gripes about this round honestly... the 700 classic shoots beautifully... more than adequate for coyote and deer. Premium ammo offerings from the likes of federal, etc. I assume you hunt deer in the northern lower and or UP.
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My Remington 700 25-06 is 33 years old and I've used it for over 30 whitetails, a big mule deer and an unknown quantity of groundhogs. I love it. I can get 3/8" groups with 115 gr Nosler BTs. I'm planning on taking it on a combo mule deer/antelope hunt in Montana this fall.
I have seen alot of .25-06's out west for open country on LOPES!
I stick with .270/130gr in FL.........Your choice partner.It all depends where you are going to use a CALIBER.
In thick cover you need a cal. that has the properties of a BULLdozer. My Opinion!!!!
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I have a Remington M700 Sendero target rifle in 25-06. It has amazing accuracy. I have used it in PA mnts to take several whitetail. It is a super caliber that is often overlooked. Never had any trouble finding ammo for it either.
I have heard of these guns and it seems that this may fit the terrain I hunt more... I would like to use it for Damage control on Coyotes and other varmits. Possibly deer, what have you experienced with the guns and types of bullets? Thanks, - Buckhunter14
I have a Model 70 25-06, and the cousin I hunt with has a Browning 25 WSSM. Both are very nice guns, with no noticeable difference in recoil. The 25 is a little lighter, but it has several drawbacks. One is that ammo selection is a lot more limited. It is also more expensive. As for its capabilities, the 25-06 is about as good of a dual purpose cartridge as you can get. 75 and 87 grain bullets will do a number on coyotes, although they tend to damage the pelts a little more than smaller calibers like a .223. The 25-06 will also shoot bullets up to 120 grains for hunting deer-sized game. The larger bullet size of the .25-06 also bucks cross-winds a lot better.
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Judging by your user name, I'm guessing you already deer hunt and hence already have a deer rifle. Your post says you want to use your new rifle for coyotes and other varmints . . . and then throw in, "possibly deer." If 90% of your shooting will be for coyotes and smaller varmints, and you already have a deer rifle, I advise you to go with something like a .223.
I have a .25-06 and love it. However, it is pretty loud (even with a 24" barrel) and the kick is not negligible. A .243 would readily handle the "coyotes, assorted varmints, and possibly deer" quite handily and be both quieter and lighter recoil than the .25-06.
Maybe you aren't fully expressing your goals for this rifle, but based on what you have said, I would go with the .223. I haven't shot one, but I've seen the shells, and that leads me to believe they are quieter and lighter recoil than the .25-06. Also, .25-06 cartridges are not cheap. I'm sure the .223 cartridges are substantially cheaper than .25-06 cartridges.
I've got a .223 and I usually carry it with me most of the time when I'm coyote hunting. Until I started reloading, I liked the fact that cheap, accurate ammo was readily available. The .223 also has about 1/5 the recoil of the .25-06 according to a chart I looked at not long back. I think the .25-06 had 15 ft. lbs. or so, and the .223 had 3 ft. lbs. As far as the .223 being quiter, it isn't. In fact, mine is a lot louder because it has a 4" shorter barrel. But it is very accurate and capable of making shots past 300 yards unless there is a stiff cross-wind. I don't know what it is, maybe the lack of recoil, but it is fun to shoot.
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