Accurate Guns

[Yourmove]

Ok, First off i am instersted in buying a long range gun, "sniper" gun, Something that can perferble be build on to. I have accurate .22 LR but past 100 yards they cant shoot strait. I just dont know much about higher calibers. I have 243,270, 30-30, 9mm but would like to know what the US army snipers use. I just want to pile them in at 200 plus yards. Consistantly. I know i can work with me and the gun alot to do it. Thanks
Also any web sites that have forums other than this one...
thanks

[turboforumnet]

i just got a 300 weatherby magnium like 2 months ago and i can hit 200 yards in about a 3" group already and its capable of way more.. def get a muzzle brake thou if you plan on shooting it alot

[newguy23]

The most "common" sniper rifle is the Remington Model 700 PS (police sniper). There is also a variation of the 700 made for Varminting which is also used by many police forces.

The calibers they come in are .308 and 7 mm mag.

Scoped "typically" with a 3-9 Leupold tactical scope.

For cheaper variations look at FN and Savage. Sako also makes a really nice sniper gun (more pricey than all of those mentioned). I saw a used 700 PS with leupold scope for 800 bucks, almost purchased it, but really have no use for such a heavy gun.

[Yourmove]

Will any of these guns shoot accurate at 200 yards. 22-250 bolt action, 22-250 single shot lever, Mini 14 .223. I beleive i can get my hands on a 7 mag to try out. Thanks

Fore the most part (not always), its not the caliber that shoots the most accurate, but the gun. A weatherby is not usually a inheriently accurate round. It has alot of freebore. Roy, never intended it to be a benchrest caliber but a hunting round.

A 308Win and 223 are the standard "sniper rounds. And are available in most "tactical guns. I have alot of experience with the FN USA and can tell you, thier typical .5MOA is right on the money in a 308win. Its not the speed you need but shot repeatability. Short actions are usually the easiest. My 308 reloads get velocity spreads around 15fps. I am very happy with this. Then you use your scope for adjustment with target turrets. You have alot of reading to do. This FN has a chrome lined barrel, and doesn't copper foul at all. I mean at all.

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/r_spr_a1.htm

I also have a 700P tactical. You can view them at www.remingtonle.com

They usually need alot of work to make them a full tactical rifle. I basically rebuilt mine. New barrel and all. Again, I suggest a 308.

[cybersniper]

I am a Law enforcement sniper and the previous posts are right on the money. Almost all snipers in Law Enforcement or military shoot the Remington 700 with a Leupold tactical scope in .308. Most sniper teams I have trained with, if not all have used the Federal 165 or 168 grain match boat tail rounds.

Most of the rifles have different barrels and tripper work along with a harris bipod. Our rifles have krieger barrels on them and trigger work by Charlie Milazzo.

My factory rifles for hunting all have Leupold scopes and trigger work. I use a Remington 700 stainless synthetic DM in 30-06, and A weatherby in 300 Win mag. The factory barrels on the higher end Weatherbys are Krieger Criterion button barrels. I'm pretty big on optics so spend the money and buy a good scope. Trigger work will also help. Get rid of the "creep" and have it set between 2lb and 4lb. If you are a newer shooter I'd lean much closer to 4lb. Our sniper rifles are 4lb.

Another big help is to make sure the rifle is free floated. That means the stock doesn't make contact with the barrel. You can check this by sliding a dollar bill between the stock and barrel it should slide almost all the way to the action.

I hope this helps!

Cybersniper

[statjunk]

Why the Remington Model 700 and not the Winchester M70?

Tom

Why the Remington Model 700 and not the Winchester M70?

I don't think winchester has marketed the 70 as much of a sniper weapon in the past decade. Remington came out with the 700P which was cheap.

But the FN has the winchester 70 action with blade extractor and all. It is the best tactical I have shot.

cyber, I mean this in a kinda funny way. But what do they need snipers for in WI. Is somebody hostageing the cheese. Kinda surprised they have alot of snipers there.

[North Texan]

You mean you haven't heard? Terrorists found out Bush likes chocolate milk. The last few decoded messages indicate they are targeting dairies in WI and Hershey's plant in PA.