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Old 11-18-2003, 01:14 AM   #1
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Default speaking of new gun anyone up to date on gun purchase laws??

does anyone know if you can purchase a gun to give someone legally by saying your buying it for yourself?? ATF regs are vague..just looking for some input thanks..
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Old 11-18-2003, 04:50 AM   #2
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To the best of my knowledge you can buy a gun as a gift as long as the person you are buying it for is legal to purchase a firearm, if you purchase one as a gift for someone that has a felony and buying it cause the person would' nt pass a background check that is considered a " straw purchase" and may get you in trouble.
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A straw purchase is a purchase in which the actual purchaser uses someone else"a.k.a. the "straw person" to make the purchase and complete the paperwork. Generally straw purchasers are utilized because the actual purchaser is not eligible to conduct a transaction because they"re in one or more legally prohibited categories, such as being addicted to a controlled substance, being a felon, being underage, and so on.

However, a straw purchase occurs even when the actual purchaser is not a prohibited person. The crime committed is knowingly making a false statement on the Form 4473 indicating that the straw purchaser is the actual purchaser, when this is not the case.

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Old 11-18-2003, 06:30 AM   #4
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People buy sell and trade used guns all the time. Could this be concidered a " straw" ?
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Old 11-18-2003, 08:03 AM   #5
 
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I bought my father a deer rifle for Christmas last year. (he isn' t a felon)

As far as buying one for someone else, I would assume that thhey are either family or a very close friend. Either way, you could buy it under your name, then fill out a bill of sale that transfers the firearm to them assuming all responsibility, then both of you sign it. You could even have a Notary Public put their seal on it as a witness.
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Old 11-18-2003, 09:48 AM   #6
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NOT YET!! But there are some SOB' s in Congress that' d like to make it that way! A " straw" purchase means the seller is an FFL holder and the purchaser must fill out the fedeal form which the seller must keep as part of his business records.
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Old 11-18-2003, 11:47 AM   #7
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Default RE: speaking of new gun anyone up to date on gun purchase laws??

I asked this question of my dealer, and he told me that it would be a felony to buy a gun as a gift for anyone (even non-felons) without stating so on the transfer form. He would then perform checks on the buyer and the intended recipient before completing the sale.

The laws can be a bit gray sometimes, so always check with your dealer. I have two guns that belonged to my grandfather, and he handed them down to me after checking with the state police. It seems personal transfers to family members and outright sales are two different subjects in the law books.

The short and simple is this: when in doubt, call the state police!
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Old 11-22-2003, 10:23 PM   #8
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thanks for the feed back guys i do believe this is a state to state subject i guess i will have to check the law books at the library.. thanks and " HUNT ON"

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Old 11-23-2003, 06:57 AM   #9
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Just remember this, The less paper work you do on one the better off you are.
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This might help
http://www.firearmslawcenter.org/content/home.asp
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