Shark tooth muzzle brake/compensator combination
06-07-2015, 06:35 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
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I'm freaking lost here. Are you a cop Freightliner? I just ask because I am trying to figure out the need for this devise for anyone. Breaching is far from a civilian need. Nothing to do with self defense. I'm all for 2nd amendment rights and all that and firmly believe all US citizens have the right to arm and protect themselves. What I don't see is the need for a breaching tool in civilian hands since it's only use would be ILLEGAL outside of law enforcement or military. Besides, a 12 gauge loaded with breaching rounds is a MUCH better alternative.
06-07-2015, 06:46 PM
#12
Spike
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06-07-2015, 07:29 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
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So, I'll say this, such that I can say in the future - don't say that I didn't warn you...
1) Breaching with a high pressure rifle round is idiotic, for multiple reasons. If you've ever done any breaching, you'd realize that it's not for the feint of heart, nor for anyone without hearing protection. Doing so with a 12ga is bad enough, breaching blast from rifles is just awful, and the destructive effect is orders of magnitude lower than that of a shotgun.
2) Muzzle devices, even bayonets, have been proven ineffective. As someone that has trained and has instructed in CQB, if I ever found myself in a scenario where those skills were necessary, I would LOVE to have my adversary attempt to use a flash hider against me. By the time you're close enough to use your mean looking muzzle break, my rifle is behind my back or on the ground, and my pistol or my knife is in my hand, and my free hand goes to your muzzle break - now I own control of your muzzle, and you're dead. You are easy prey if you try to use that device as a weapon.
It's a gimmick - guys want their rifles to look mean. I can get that. But don't be deluded enough to believe that it offers a tactical advantage for those applications.
1) Breaching with a high pressure rifle round is idiotic, for multiple reasons. If you've ever done any breaching, you'd realize that it's not for the feint of heart, nor for anyone without hearing protection. Doing so with a 12ga is bad enough, breaching blast from rifles is just awful, and the destructive effect is orders of magnitude lower than that of a shotgun.
2) Muzzle devices, even bayonets, have been proven ineffective. As someone that has trained and has instructed in CQB, if I ever found myself in a scenario where those skills were necessary, I would LOVE to have my adversary attempt to use a flash hider against me. By the time you're close enough to use your mean looking muzzle break, my rifle is behind my back or on the ground, and my pistol or my knife is in my hand, and my free hand goes to your muzzle break - now I own control of your muzzle, and you're dead. You are easy prey if you try to use that device as a weapon.
It's a gimmick - guys want their rifles to look mean. I can get that. But don't be deluded enough to believe that it offers a tactical advantage for those applications.
06-07-2015, 08:08 PM
#14
Spike
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 34
So, I'll say this, such that I can say in the future - don't say that I didn't warn you...
1) Breaching with a high pressure rifle round is idiotic, for multiple reasons. If you've ever done any breaching, you'd realize that it's not for the feint of heart, nor for anyone without hearing protection. Doing so with a 12ga is bad enough, breaching blast from rifles is just awful, and the destructive effect is orders of magnitude lower than that of a shotgun.
2) Muzzle devices, even bayonets, have been proven ineffective. As someone that has trained and has instructed in CQB, if I ever found myself in a scenario where those skills were necessary, I would LOVE to have my adversary attempt to use a flash hider against me. By the time you're close enough to use your mean looking muzzle break, my rifle is behind my back or on the ground, and my pistol or my knife is in my hand, and my free hand goes to your muzzle break - now I own control of your muzzle, and you're dead. You are easy prey if you try to use that device as a weapon.
It's a gimmick - guys want their rifles to look mean. I can get that. But don't be deluded enough to believe that it offers a tactical advantage for those applications.
1) Breaching with a high pressure rifle round is idiotic, for multiple reasons. If you've ever done any breaching, you'd realize that it's not for the feint of heart, nor for anyone without hearing protection. Doing so with a 12ga is bad enough, breaching blast from rifles is just awful, and the destructive effect is orders of magnitude lower than that of a shotgun.
2) Muzzle devices, even bayonets, have been proven ineffective. As someone that has trained and has instructed in CQB, if I ever found myself in a scenario where those skills were necessary, I would LOVE to have my adversary attempt to use a flash hider against me. By the time you're close enough to use your mean looking muzzle break, my rifle is behind my back or on the ground, and my pistol or my knife is in my hand, and my free hand goes to your muzzle break - now I own control of your muzzle, and you're dead. You are easy prey if you try to use that device as a weapon.
It's a gimmick - guys want their rifles to look mean. I can get that. But don't be deluded enough to believe that it offers a tactical advantage for those applications.
Last edited by Freightliner357; 06-07-2015 at 08:24 PM.
06-07-2015, 08:31 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,902
Alternatively, there's an advantage to having the farthest forward grip position is worth something, including shooting from support. I used 15" handguards for my latest builds.
But being transparent, there is at least one disadvantage in over-block rails. For adjustable gas blocks, I have to remove my handguards to adjust. I suppose extra length costs extra weight too, but not enough for me to cry about.
06-07-2015, 08:50 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
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06-08-2015, 03:40 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Kansas
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That's a Syrac Ord block, just sold through JP.
The JP blocks that I use are locking models. The set screw runs through the side, then the locking screw is accessed through the front.
15" guards on mid-length and carbine length systems are also a bit of a challenge - that's a REALLY long allen wrench.
The JP blocks that I use are locking models. The set screw runs through the side, then the locking screw is accessed through the front.
15" guards on mid-length and carbine length systems are also a bit of a challenge - that's a REALLY long allen wrench.
