.257 Weatherby magnum distances & scope
#1
.257 Weatherby magnum distances & scope
What's the effective range of a .257 Weatherby mag (assuming the shooter does his part) for antelope & whitetail? 500-600 yds.? What's a good scope to be able to see & shoot accurately out this far?
#3
I generally consider that my scope choice and my cartridge choice should be dependent upon my desired targets and desired ranges, but not necessarily interdependent upon eachother.
In other words - I pick my scope based on what I need to be able to see, or WANT to be able to see at the range I'm shooting, not based upon what rifle it might be riding.
You've probably been around here long enough to have noticed that I tend to prefer to be "over magnified" compared to most folks. If I'm shooting 600yrds, then my scope will have a top end in the upper teens or twenties. I CAN shoot and have often shot a 3-9x40mm scope that far, but I DO shoot better with a scope that lets me zoom in closer. The downside of a high mag set up is that it lessens your field of view, reduces light transmission and makes you more vulnerable to distortion. As such, I tend to favor 30mm tubes and 50mm objectives.
So, for my hunting at 0-500yrds or 0-600yrds, the Leupold VX-3 4.5-14x50mm glass is what keeps me happy. It's a little low on mag power for what I'd like at long range, but it's just enough to keep me happy, and has a low end FOV that's very functional. The Leup VX-3 6.5-20x50 is another scope that I have used for longer range hunting rigs, but the 6.5x is a lot to deal with inside 50yrds (very small FOV).
A Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50mm would be another good choice. The Leup is better glass, but the Bushnell is about $150-200 cheaper, and has twice the magnification range.
One thing to consider also is internal adjustment. That Wby Mag is pretty flat shooting, but 600yrds is a bit of drop to account for. For example, some of the Nikon Monarch models used to only have 20MOA of internal adjustment in high mag scopes, so they'd limit your range unless you set them up in an angled base/mount, or in Burris Zee's.
In other words - I pick my scope based on what I need to be able to see, or WANT to be able to see at the range I'm shooting, not based upon what rifle it might be riding.
You've probably been around here long enough to have noticed that I tend to prefer to be "over magnified" compared to most folks. If I'm shooting 600yrds, then my scope will have a top end in the upper teens or twenties. I CAN shoot and have often shot a 3-9x40mm scope that far, but I DO shoot better with a scope that lets me zoom in closer. The downside of a high mag set up is that it lessens your field of view, reduces light transmission and makes you more vulnerable to distortion. As such, I tend to favor 30mm tubes and 50mm objectives.
So, for my hunting at 0-500yrds or 0-600yrds, the Leupold VX-3 4.5-14x50mm glass is what keeps me happy. It's a little low on mag power for what I'd like at long range, but it's just enough to keep me happy, and has a low end FOV that's very functional. The Leup VX-3 6.5-20x50 is another scope that I have used for longer range hunting rigs, but the 6.5x is a lot to deal with inside 50yrds (very small FOV).
A Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50mm would be another good choice. The Leup is better glass, but the Bushnell is about $150-200 cheaper, and has twice the magnification range.
One thing to consider also is internal adjustment. That Wby Mag is pretty flat shooting, but 600yrds is a bit of drop to account for. For example, some of the Nikon Monarch models used to only have 20MOA of internal adjustment in high mag scopes, so they'd limit your range unless you set them up in an angled base/mount, or in Burris Zee's.
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The effective range of any modern firearm probably exceeds the skill of the person squeezing the trigger. Unless you spend a lot of time practicing, even a 500-600 yard shot is beyond the ability of most hunters. I've never understood why anyone would want to shoot at game at those distances. I grew up in the wide open spaces of the west and the number of times I couldn't get closer that 300 yards could be counted on the fingers of one hand.
#5
The effective range of any modern firearm probably exceeds the skill of the person squeezing the trigger. Unless you spend a lot of time practicing, even a 500-600 yard shot is beyond the ability of most hunters. I've never understood why anyone would want to shoot at game at those distances. I grew up in the wide open spaces of the west and the number of times I couldn't get closer that 300 yards could be counted on the fingers of one hand.
My buddy made a 907 yard one shot kill last year on a whitetail buck, it's pretty cool being able to do that. My farthest kill so far is 500 yards. Just different strokes for different folks.
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As far as the op's question, with the right bullet 1000 yards isn't impossible if you and your rifle are capable of it.
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The effective range of any modern firearm probably exceeds the skill of the person squeezing the trigger. Unless you spend a lot of time practicing, even a 500-600 yard shot is beyond the ability of most hunters. I've never understood why anyone would want to shoot at game at those distances. I grew up in the wide open spaces of the west and the number of times I couldn't get closer that 300 yards could be counted on the fingers of one hand.
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Same here flags! IMHO it's just shooting and not hunting when a guy isn't in the same county for the animal to even know he's around or have a chance to escape! I don't know why people that want to show their skill at 1000 yards can't keep it on paper or gongs, rather than a living, breathing animal when they have a much bigger chance of wounding game as the range exponentially increases. More and more organizations like RMEF and B&C are coming out against this LR stuff and I hope a lot of people that are thinking about it read their stances and change their mind.
RR
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