2" three-shot group at 200 yards would be a minimum, and I' d make sure I held myself within particular limits.
What would I expect out of myself? The same group at 300 yards.
Remingchester.
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Seeing as how most guns will shoot better than most people can shoot them i would say 1 moa at 100 yds. There are a lot of people that go hunting in every state each year that can not shoot 1 moa at 100 yds off a sandbag much less off hand shooting at deer or any other game. I have seen people at the range zeroing their scope and if they can hit anywhere in a 6 inch circle at 100 yds they are ready to go hunting.
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But really, 1 1/2 " or less @ 100 yds would be my preference...mainly because some of the shot opportunities I get can be a little on the long side (300 + yards)
jeez you guys are tough.....your deer hunting!! you dont need to beable to hit the hair you aim for....if you can put one within a 4 inch circle every time thats good enough for me.....you got what....atleast 8x8" of an area to hit!!! i mean accuracy is great and it ensures if you do your part your bullet will go where you put it....but you dont really need a tack driver for a deer rifle imo.....a 4 inch group at your max range is good enough in my book
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if you can put one within a 4 inch circle every time thats good enough for me.....you got what....atleast 8x8" of an area to hit!!!
But Mauser06, that 8x8" area looks mighty small out there at 300 yards. A 4" group at 100 yards is gonna be a 8" group and 200, and 12" at 300 yards. And that' s from a bench. Add in odd shooting positions, wind, and other factors and you' d be lucky to hit anything beyond 100 yards.
Now a rifle that will group 1/2" on the bench at 100 yards, well, if you miss, you can' t blame the rifle.
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I' m with Mauser06 on this one. except I would stae that a 4" group isn' t even necessary- an 8 inch group at 300 yards would be good enough provided you are consistant and base your group size on many more than the 3 shots you use to sight in a rifle a week before deer season. If you can keep 10 shots in a row within a pie plate at the maximum distance that you will be hunting at from an improvised position, you will do alright. Shooting a 1/2" 3 shot group at 100 yards really doesn' t mean much and isn' t even an accurate representation of the limitations of your rifle. Shooting from a bench means even less unless you are going to set up the same shooting bench at the edge of a field pointing at a bait pile at a known distance.
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People seem to be mixing rifle accuracy with shooting accuracy. Weatherby MK V' s, for example, used to come with a proof target proving 1 1/2" group size off the bench with Wby. ammo. That was considered to be good rifle accuracy. If you don' t handload, try different ammo to see which load gives you the best rifle accuracy, hopefully inside 1 1/2" @ 100 yds.
Once you know what the rifle / load combo will do, work on your shooting accuracy to learn what distances you can accurately shoot from different positions. Then you will have a much better idea of when not to shoot to avoid cripples and misses.