I went to look at the tikkas and rems and brownings today. The tikka was a nice gun however I fell in love with the Rem BDL dm. With browning second. They had one chambered in the 7mm-08. Surprisingly the dealer was trying to steer me away from the 7mm. Really pushing the .270 Or even the 7mm short magnum or .270 wsm. Not sure why one would need all that power. His arguement was that after 200 yards the 7mm-08 would drop off like a rock where as the .270 would not. Looking at the balistics on the Federal website not sure where he gets his info according to federal at 500 yards only about 3 inches difference. Decisions. the .270 is a good option cause of the many loading available, but I THOUGHT I had a winner here with the 7mm-08. Please help my decision is getting tougher by the minute. I hoping to put the money down on this new gun in the next couple of weeks but am lost as to what to do. I will again be using this in MN. Can' t ever see shooting over 150 yds. But if you throw someday maybe going to Montana don' t know what to do. If a different situation comes along, I could always by another rifle. Thanks for all the help!
Sounds like you have a gun dealer who' s trying to push you towards big boomers for little or no reason. Don' t even worry about the 7mm-08 ' dropping like a rock.' Now, the .270 probably shoots a little flatter, and if he' s pushing power, the short mags make sense. Seriously, I would look at the calibers he' s talking about like this:
7mm-08 is a beautiful shooting, light kicking, deerslayer. I would buy one and never look back. It' s as or more accurate as/than any other caliber I' ve ever seen.
The .270 is just as good as the 7mm-08, kicks a little more, and shoots a little flatter. Also, it is a much more popular (available/cheaper) caliber. I would trust mine with my life.
The short mags would provide you something to shoot elk and the like with, if you were forced to use the same gun.
If you' re not concerned about buying another rifle later on, the only reason you' d steer away from the 7mm-08 is to save money on ammo. I wouldn' t even hesitate if I were in your position.
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If you want the 7mm-08 then by all means get it. The deer won' t be able to tell a lick of differance between the two. Might even get it from someone who would put your best intrests in mind and not the guy that is just trying to push the latest and greatest. Who knows he may have bought a bunch guns in a certain couple of calibers and just wants to get rid of them and doesn' t care i you like it or not.
Even in Montana hunting elk you wouldn' t be under gunned in the least with the 7mm-08.
If you like it then get it. The salesman isn' t going to be shooting it.
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Although I like both caliber real well, I would go with the 270. After owniing and shooting both quite a bit, I had a little more faith in the 270. However where I hunt ranges can be long if that is not the case where you hunt then by all means choose the one you like best. Both wll do a good job. Range is really the only difference with the 270 holding the edge.
The 7mm-08 will do all you ask, and it won' t kick you very hard while doing it. Ditto the .270 Win. Get which ever you like the best and rest assured you' ve made an excellent decision.
Don' t know why the gun dealer would push you away from the 7mm-08 rifle unless it was a little cheaper than the others and he' s getting a commission. Anyway both the 270 and the 7mm-08 are good calibers. If you want the 7mm-08 go for it. It' s trajectory is not quite as flat as a .270 but its certainly not a " rainbow" calibre, and will reach out and touch something if you want.
Thanks all, you seemed to help. I will have to debate the 270 7mm-08 a little more with myself. Seriously I think the 7mm is the way I want to go. I figure the reason he was pushing the .270 is he had a few in stock where as the 7mm-08 he would have to order. Why should I stay away from the remington? I now think I may purchase the A-bolt. I liked the magazine design the best, and the bolt seemed awfully nice as well.
Quilly said that because there has been a small trend in the new Remingtons to have inconsistencies, defective parts, etc. I personally think that opinion is a little blown out of proportion, and I wouldn' t say to definitively avoid any of the major gun companies. If you' re holding the 700 in your hands and love it, go for it.
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I have had 2 Remington rifles in 3 years both chambered for the 300 Ultra Mag. and I was happy with both.I would go stainles/synthetic if you were to go remington, the just feel better.I have never owned a browning,just never liked the design of them.As for caliber 7mm-08 it is good round for deer/elk/blk bear.BBJ
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