rifle prices
08-12-2003, 08:51 PM
#1
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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rifle prices
Is it just me or have high powered rifle prices gotten out of hand.I live in Manitoba so I have no clue what your paying in the U.S,but here you can' t buy a new bolt action for under $600 + 14 % tax +registration fees.That is for a base no frills rifle,no scope, no case,nothing but the gun.By the time you mount the scope your looking at a $1000 easy and thats if you get a cheap scope!If you want to get really fancy well you can spend $3500 easy.To me thats alot of dough,I think if poeple actually knew what it cost the gun company' s to build these guns we might think twice about shelling out that kind of cash.Am I alone here,what do you guys think.Thanks for your input.
08-12-2003, 09:28 PM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Coralville, IA. USA
Posts: 3,802
RE: rifle prices
14% TAX & REGISTRATION FEES!!! [
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Man, your gov' t really bends you over and sticks it to ya, don' t they?! [:@][X(]
Bet you won' t miss your next chance to vote, eh? Your government is out of control!
Mike
][X(]Man, your gov' t really bends you over and sticks it to ya, don' t they?! [:@][X(]
Bet you won' t miss your next chance to vote, eh? Your government is out of control!
Mike
08-13-2003, 05:40 AM
#3
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,270
RE: rifle prices
Yes, prices of all types of guns are very much too high! And we pay an 11% excise tax here in the U.S. on all guns & loaded ammo, which is ALMOST as much as you have to pay in Canada. (This is without " registration fees" , which I hope we never see here!!)
The myth is that " sportsmen insisted on the 11% tax under the Pittman Robertson Act in order to pay for government game management and conservation programs" . I researched this question once, and discovered that the 11% tax was placed on firearms and ammunition in the late 1800' s, and was MERELY REALLOCATED to conservation and game management programs by Pittman-Robertson!! It had been going to the general treasury prior to Pittman-Robertson. So the old saw that " shooters and hunters asked to be taxed" is just another " Urban Legend" !![&:]
The myth is that " sportsmen insisted on the 11% tax under the Pittman Robertson Act in order to pay for government game management and conservation programs" . I researched this question once, and discovered that the 11% tax was placed on firearms and ammunition in the late 1800' s, and was MERELY REALLOCATED to conservation and game management programs by Pittman-Robertson!! It had been going to the general treasury prior to Pittman-Robertson. So the old saw that " shooters and hunters asked to be taxed" is just another " Urban Legend" !![&:]
08-13-2003, 10:51 AM
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Tahlequah, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,584
RE: rifle prices
I spend 637$ on a Winchester classic featherweight model 70. Thats without scope rings,bases,sling,recoil pad etc. With the scope and rings,bases,sling,recoil pad its easily over 1k$. I think my next gun will be a savage [8D]
08-13-2003, 10:35 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: E. Washington State
Posts: 1,045
RE: rifle prices
ORIGINAL: trac209
... you can spend $3500 easy.To me thats alot of dough.
... you can spend $3500 easy.To me thats alot of dough.
Just kidding of course. Prices here are high too but there are some really good deals out there. Check into buying a Tikka if you can. I think they are selling for under $500 here in the U.S. and are really a good rifle for the money (1" MOA guarentee, Sako barrel and action, smooth-as-silk action).
08-14-2003, 05:55 AM
#8
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toronto Canada
Posts: 300
RE: rifle prices
Trac,
I' ve noticed that gun prices and ammo usually go up very marginally twice a year in Ontario. Early in the new year and mid-summer.
Originally when I questioned the increase they said european manufacturers of firearms (tikka, sako, now owned by beretta) were realigning their product prices with american manufacturers who had already issued their increases. I think that was all BS!, what I truly believe is there' s been a hidden tax put on these products. Its probably a tiny percentage increase which causes a 50 cent increase in ammo and a 10 to 15 dollar increase in the firearm. Apply that twice a year over 3 to 5 years that I' ve noticed it and its big bucks real quick.
Shop around the deals are there, most smaller shops have no tax sales once a year and will negotiate on price.
We' ll see what happens when Bass Pro comes to Canada next year. Hopefully Cabelas will follow suit.
340,
I' ve noticed that gun prices and ammo usually go up very marginally twice a year in Ontario. Early in the new year and mid-summer.
Originally when I questioned the increase they said european manufacturers of firearms (tikka, sako, now owned by beretta) were realigning their product prices with american manufacturers who had already issued their increases. I think that was all BS!, what I truly believe is there' s been a hidden tax put on these products. Its probably a tiny percentage increase which causes a 50 cent increase in ammo and a 10 to 15 dollar increase in the firearm. Apply that twice a year over 3 to 5 years that I' ve noticed it and its big bucks real quick.
Shop around the deals are there, most smaller shops have no tax sales once a year and will negotiate on price.
We' ll see what happens when Bass Pro comes to Canada next year. Hopefully Cabelas will follow suit.
340,
08-14-2003, 01:21 PM
#9
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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RE: rifle prices
I had no idea that bass pro was coming to canada,when are the supposed to set up shop here?Does anyone know.It would also be nice if cabelas came too,I' m getting tired of only having one S.I.R store and one farmers supply.In a city of 800,000 thats pretty sad.Thats why they get away with these outragous prices because they have the only store in the city.We can' t even come to the U.S.A to buy guns because we can' t bring them back into canada.The government here is getting out of hand.
08-14-2003, 03:57 PM
#10
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 138
RE: rifle prices
Just think though, This year I will have spent nearly $1100 on my Mathews LX and all of the garbage mounted on it. I will spend another $100 on arrows and Broad heads, in three years I will sell the bow for $400 if I can get it. and buy the new wizbang bow on the market.
BUT I paid $600 for my Remington 700, $150 for the muzzle break, $300 for the scope, $100 for other " accessories" Shot about $100 through the gun, That puts me at $1250 roughlly. I can see that rifle in my family for 100 years if it is well taken care of. That' s the reason the guns cost so much and when you compare that to Archery,,,, there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo much more value in a rifle.
JMO
BUT I paid $600 for my Remington 700, $150 for the muzzle break, $300 for the scope, $100 for other " accessories" Shot about $100 through the gun, That puts me at $1250 roughlly. I can see that rifle in my family for 100 years if it is well taken care of. That' s the reason the guns cost so much and when you compare that to Archery,,,, there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo much more value in a rifle.
JMO